I have heard some guys say they would rather not approach a woman who looks like they have 'tons' of makeup on, no matter how good she looks. They say it's because if she needs that much makeup, she must be ugly or not so good looking. Or they think she will look very different w/o it, and they will be disappointed.
But I think makeup doesn't change a face dramatically. I mean, it can help a lot, of course, with disguising imperfect skin, and making eyes look wider with eye makeup, etc. But if makeup can make a plain or ugly woman beautiful, then every woman you see walking around with makeup would be considered a beauty, and that is not the case. At least in NYC, I see the vast majority of women wear makeup to some extent. Even those who look 'natural', can have 'natural' looking makeup, that looks like they have nothing or not much on, but they do. Even celebs have that 'natural' looking makeup at times.

But we also know women who are not that attractive, and despite makeup, still don't look so good. Some bone structures simply cannot be helped much no matter how well the makeup is done.

So what do you all think, does makeup make such a dramatic difference for you? I know it does help, but if it could make all women supermodels, then nobody would seek a nose job, cheek implants, etc. I know some will say they want to look good even w/o makeup, but I don't think even a professional makeup job can take a plain women into a ravishing beauty.
I think some men think makeup can work miracles. Photoshop can, since facial contours can be altered.
But makeup can only do so much, and people with a good eye can still see imperfections even with tons of makeup.

As a heterosexual male I find it unattractive when women cake makeup on their faces even if they have good facial features. When girls cake makeup on their faces they often look like prostitutes or transexuals to me, as these are two types of people that often wear extreme amounts of make-up. Its just a turn-off.

If you ask me...make-up should only be used to cover up things like acne, scars, and dark circles, which is all I ever use it for.

Many of those are using pics with unflattering lighting, and pics with awkward facial expressions for the "without make-up" pic.

Bugjune, it's interesting what you say about the body. I agree, that a fit body is better. But I think when women are 'young', and young men are looking at them, they tend to prefer a pretty face or 'pleasing' face, over the 'best' body. Of course most don't want a chubby or out of shape woman, but I've heard many times how a certain girl has an awesome body - But her face..so they call her buttaface.
These are the type of girls some guys say they would be for fun (some joke with a bag over her face) but not for a long term partner.
Also, there's all types of tastes in 'body' types, some like voluptuous women, some rail thin, etc. I think when a women is young, as long as she doesn't look fat or obese to men, and has a nice face they find pleasing, it's enough.
An older woman is different, so she has to work on both her body and face. I know we can only look so young, even with the best p.s. But you have to admit most of us (at least those here on this forum) want our faces to look as best we can, or we wouldn't be getting or considering p.s. or fillers, chemical, laser peels, etc.

There's a difference between being an overly painted face, and a nicely done makeup job that just 'accentuates' features.
There's some women who are plain and can look great with makeup done well. But some with not so good bone structures, will not look pretty no matter how good the makeup. Tori Spelling comes to mind, and a few others.

I agree. Many high fashion models are in fact plain faces. But there's a difference between plain and ugly or homely.
I don't think a huge nose or lack of chin, or otherwise homely face can be made beautiful with makeup.
I do think too much makeup can deceive men in a way. But I don't think all men are easily deceived. I mean, I see many women in clubs/bars in the city, all with makeup, and not all are considered hot by men. Many guys can see through makeup and know which women are prettier than others.

Sam....a lipstick that you might want to try:

Revlon Colorstay lasts all day...really works.L'Oreal makes a good one too but doesn't last quite as long.

Feel better soon!

That sucks:(

I think a little makeup, applied well, can go a long way. But badly or heavily applied makeup looks worse than no makeup.
I always feel better about myself with some makeup. I have very pale skin, and I need concealer in places that look red and blotchly, like those creases beside my nostrils.

I don't wear makeup really. I just am bad at applying it.

But I read that: the more features stand out from one another (and from hair too), the more contrast, the more a face is read as feminine/attractive to (hetero) men. Since makeup provides contrast, it makes the face more feminine/fertile looking/evolutionarily attractive.

If you think about Megan Fox (full of dark/light contrast), it makes sense.

Now if only I could learn how to put on mascara without blinding myself.