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nyc09
Posted: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 2:15:01 AM
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Other then Rogain, what hair product or home remedy can I use to thicking my hair line? My hair has gotten critically thin. Thanks in advance.
Anna
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A sulfate free shampoo is a must. Lots of protein and biotin helps as well.
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Problem is most products work best for the crown, especially for guys.
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finasteride. I've been on finasteride and minoxidil for a while now.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 11:34:23 AM
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Try inositol...Great for new hair growth, plus it speeds the growth and is good for fat metabolism from the liver. I am seeing new hair coming in around my temples and have been on it for about 3 weeks. I have been taking less than required amount and it's still working. (Requird amount being 700 mg.) I take the powder, but don't know why capsules wouldn't work just as well and may be less.
nyc09
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What should be my daily intake when it comes to biotin? how many capsules a day? what bottle of MCG(what number)? Thanks
DCNGA
Posted: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 4:27:04 PM
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Not so sure about that, Anato but will take your word for it.

It is used to treat OCD, ADHD, etc:

http://biopsychiatry.com/inositol.htm

http://westsuffolkpsych.homestead.com/inositol.html

Or just get it naturally:

www.ajcn.org/cgi/reprint/33/9/1954.pdf
Anato
Posted: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 6:19:15 PM
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DC, no wonder I'm able to focus now!!!..LOL..Seriously, please google it and do your research from many sources. Just bc Inositol helps the brain, the heart and a myriad of things, it doesn't mean it does not also help the scalp. It makes sense to me that if a nutrient helps the brain, it can help the scalp. This is a safe nutrient, inexpensive, and they asked for a home remedy. This is natural.....if you happen to get healthier skin and a bonus of a better mood, then great, I say. Everybody could use that, right.

A PhD who also is very interested in natural products for treatment rather than harsh chemicals, believes in it for hair growth, as do others, and they advertise it for hair growth, and why I bought it. The proof is in the pudding. I do not make things up. It also depends on the reason for the hair loss, I would guess, since a lack of inositol can cause hair loss...but mine is coming in thick around the hairline for the first time in yrs where I had the brow lift. (Another reason I don't want anymore incisions on my hairline.) My forehead became slightly too high due to hair loss, and another dr wanted to do a forehead shortening...but I've solved those issues with a nutrient and botox...but I digress. Little money spent and it just might help you also. HTH

http://www.healthsupplementsnutritionalguide.com/Inositol.html

Inositol RDA (Recommended Dietary Allowance)



There is no official RDA for inositol, which is not recognized as a vitamin. It is also difficult to list recommended daily intakes, as it is made in the body. As a rough guide however, many nutritionists advise a daily consumption of 1,000 mg for adults.

Higher doses have been used for therapeutic purposes.

Inositol Overdose Symptoms, Toxicity Level & Side Effects



No serious inositol side effects are known, even for therapeutic dosages over 10 times the normal dietary intake, except for diarrhea in some cases of very high doses.

:: Inositol Benefits & Functions
1. important in fat and cholesterol metabolism
2. mild lipotropic agent that removes fats from the liver and lowers blood cholesterol
3. has been found in studies to improve symptoms of polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS) including infertility, with significant weight loss and increased HDL (“good”) cholesterol levels
4. used to help prevent plaque build-up and arteriosclerosis (hardening of the arteries)
5. needed for hair growth and strong healthy hair
6. helps maintain healthy skin
7. has been used to prevent and treat eczema
8. considered a brain food as it works with choline in brain cell nutrition
9. needed, together with choline, for formation of lecithin, a key building block of cell membranes that protects cells from oxidation and forms the protective sheath around the brain
10. essential component of myelin that coats nerves and regulates nerve transmission, and may help treat nerve disorders
11. has helped improve nerve function in diabetics who experience pain and numbness arising from nerve degeneration
12. preliminary research indicates that inositol has a calming effect and may help treat depression, panic attacks and obsessive-compulsive disorder

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Inositol Deficiency Symptoms and Causes

Deficiency is rare as the body manufactures inositol, and it is present in a wide variety of foods.

However, long term use of antibiotics increases the need for inositol. So does regular consumption of more than 2 cups of coffee daily as coffee destroys this nutrient. Extremely high coffee intake can therefore produce a deficiency.

:: Inositol Deficiency Symptoms
1. eye abnormalities
2. hair loss or alopecia or patchy baldness
3. memory loss
4. eczema
5. constipation
6. higher cholesterol level
7. liver excess fat
8. hardening and narrowing of arteries (atheriosclerosis)
9. lower levels of inositol have been found in the nerves of people with multiple sclerosis and diabetic nerve disorders; supplementation may help as inositol benefits nerve transmission


Inositol Supplements

Taking vitamins and minerals in their correct balance is vital to the proper functioning of all vitamins. They work synergistically, which means that the effectiveness of any one nutrient requires or is enhanced, sometimes dramatically, by the presence of certain other nutrients

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Inositol RDA (Recommended Dietary Allowance)

There is no official RDA for inositol, which is not recognized as a vitamin. It is also difficult to list recommended daily intakes, as it is made in the body. As a rough guide however, many nutritionists advise a daily consumption of 1,000 mg for adults.

Higher doses have been used for therapeutic purposes.


Inositol Overdose Symptoms, Toxicity Level & Side Effects

No serious inositol side effects are known, even for therapeutic dosages over 10 times the normal dietary intake, except for diarrhea in some cases of very high doses.
DCNGA
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Didn't mean to imply you were not telling the truth about your new hair growth.
Anato
Posted: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 7:51:13 PM
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I didn't think you thought that at all, DC...Just making a statement for the one interested in hair growth, making sure that they knew that my hair really is growing in. Nyc did contact me..so hope we get a good report back of hair growth.

For those interested, there are other things for hair that I have NOT tried that is recommended along with the inositol where I ordered mine..but I think this place is a little expensive, in hindsight, as these things can be found at any decent healhfood store for less probably. It's called CosMedix..a natural hair formula. It contains Saw Palmetto, Nettle Leaft to help block the DHT hormone which leads to male pattern baldness for men and women...Horsetail and Fo-Ti Root and MSM provides vital nutrients to encourage hair growth...Biotin and other nutrients to improve the health of the scalp. Combines well with InosiPlex..which is the inositol that I am using.
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I don't know how valid this source is but they claim different forms of inositol have profoundly different effects on the body.
The form for hair seems to be myo-inositol. Again, I don't know where this info is coming from.
http://www.wise4living.com/hfvit-age/inositol.htm
Bugjune
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Don't know if you're hesitant to go this route ... but my husband got TERRIFIC results from the Bosley Hair clinic in SF, CA. He had this done back in 2005, and his hairline has remained THE SAME in front, as a result of the transplants. He continues to lose hair from the crown of his head, and is considering doing another round of hair transplant.

Baically, it was a half-day procedure, where a section of his hair from the back of his head was sliced OFF, quickly separated into the hair roots, and then transplanted into his hairline in front and crown on top of head. The recovery is about a week with little or no discomfort, just letting the transplanted hair roots take root.

The key here is to get the hair transplants done when you're as YOUNG as possible, and have a healthy, thick slab of hair on the back of your head to use. I think the slab cut from my husband's head was about 1/4" wide and 6" long? The scalp is sewn back together, and there is not ONE hint of a scar, bald area or any indication that the slab was removed from that area.

Um, I hope I didn't gross anyone out with the vivid description here, but if I was a guy, I would definitely consider Bosley Hair transplants and do it sooner rather than later.



nyc09 wrote:
Other then Rogain, what hair product or home remedy can I use to thicking my hair line? My hair has gotten critically thin. Thanks in advance.


I Bug U
Bugjune
Posted: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 10:43:09 PM
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Damn and blast! I just checked my B-100 pills and there is no B8 (i.e., Inositol) in them. Feh. Brain going to hell in a handbasket. Hair today, gone tomorrow.

In my next life I want to be born an Indian with beautiful, raven-black hair, lustrous and thick! I would even sell some for wig-making!

Now at 55+, I need to figure out how to take chin hairs and transplant them on top of my head.

I Bug U
Sarah W
Posted: Thursday, August 19, 2010 1:20:35 AM
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Bugjune wrote:
Damn and blast! I just checked my B-100 pills and there is no B8 (i.e., Inositol) in them. Feh. Brain going to hell in a handbasket. Hair today, gone tomorrow.

In my next life I want to be born an Indian with beautiful, raven-black hair, lustrous and thick! I would even sell some for wig-making!

Now at 55+, I need to figure out how to take chin hairs and transplant them on top of my head.

Lol Bugjune. I can relate to that. I swear they grow up overnight- thick, lustrous and jolly hard to tweak out too. I reckon if I left them there for a week or two, they would grow down to my shoulders and I could floss my teeth with them whilst watching telly. However I keep the little buggers under control
Anna
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I don't know much about hair transplants but Ive read you don't want to do it too young, the hair loss should mostly stabilize since it's unpredictable and you don't want to end up with more hair loss behind the transplant and not enough donor hair to cover it. But you don't want to wait too long for the reason bug mentioned either.

I don't know if it's true but it seems to make sense and doesn't hurt to try- yoga, specifically downward dog and similar positions at least 10 min a day increase circulation to the hair follicles to improve hair condition.
Bugjune
Posted: Thursday, August 19, 2010 12:39:24 PM
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I was all set to RUN out and by some Inositol .. then decided to reign myself in and do a bit more research. I stumbled across this comprehensive article on all matters pertaining to hair thinning and hair loss: http://tinyurl.com/2fqe6y6

Gives a good overview of the causes, treatments and supplements commonly used for this condition.

So now, my shopping list is probably going to be TWICE as long and TEN times as expensive. Or ... I could just live with my thin hair and call it a day.

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stache
Posted: Thursday, August 19, 2010 12:56:00 PM
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The trick is to keep the hair that you already have, as it is very difficult to get any of it back.
Anato
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Amen to that, stache...My mom had very thick hair and so did I..but I never appreciated it bc it seemed like just too much hair! I always thought if I lost half of mine no one would even notice and I would like it better. But when I actually started losing around the hairline, it freaked me out.

Cybergirl wrote:

don't know how valid this source is but they claim different forms of inositol have profoundly different effects on the body.
The form for hair seems to be myo-inositol. Again, I don't know where this info is coming from.
http://www.wise4living.com/hfvit-age/inositol.htm
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I saw that and have no idea either. Mine just says, inositol as ingredient. But the advertisment in the catalog where I got mine says, (besides Natural Hair Growth), that it supports mood regulation and brain function...and fat metabolism from the liver...I like all those bonuses! The liver is a very important organ and you don't want it fatty.
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It seems there are quite a few different types:

Quote:

Allo-inositol
Cis-inositol
D-chiro-inositol
Epi-inositol
L-chiro-inositol
Muco-inositol
Neo-inositol
Scyllo-inositol
Inositol 1-methyltransferase
Inositol 3-methyltransferase
Inositol 4-methyltransferase
Inositol nicotinate
Inositol phosphate
Inositol trisphosphate
Inositol pentakisphosphate
Inositol hexaphosphate
Inositol triphosphate receptor
Inositol hexanicotinate
Anato
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LOL, Bugjune and Sarah. Dental floss? LOL, Are you two having a contest to see who can out gross each other?

I'm kidding. You are blowing our image of beauty and femininity..;~)
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