I got my bottle last week - you might've read, it blew its cap and ripped a hole right in the bubble wrap bag it was shipped in. But I'm putting it on every day, and so far, so good! Mine is a spray, comes out a milky white, but rubs in totally clear. And I feel better about the UVA blockage.

Hope yours didn't curdle in that heat. Did you unscrew the cap and take a peek at it?

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I Bug U

Don't think (not positive) that any of them are waterproof, so reapply generously after leaving the water.

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I layer the anthelios with helioplex sport if I'm going into the water, although you have to reapply with any sunscreen.

I remember reading an article somewhere that a lab did a test of a bunch of sunscreens and helioplex performed the worst although I cant find it again. Maybe someone else has seen this too?

You guys didn't answer the pertinent question - do you guys think this will destroy the ingredients in it ??? or take away some of its chemical potency??? Kosmed and Anna say no - but I still worry - I mean who knows how HONEST these people are who sell these things to us are - Maybe this was kept out in a hot place for months before being mailed to me - and just for the record I am a bit disappointed in this as I went out one day in the afternoon for barely 1/2 hr of sunshine - and I felt that my pigmentation got worse - It does give you a nice glow though - Bug - I'm surprised that spray totally sinks in without any white residue -

CVS has a sale on La Roche Anthelios products - but you guys think that they are not as potent as the european ones we get that have PPD ratings?

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Hotels in Cleveland

The anthelios are crap, I used it when I went to the Beach a week ago with a hat and all, and I turned yellow
after couple of hours after being under the sun, and I mean really yellow , my son and his friends asked how come I look like I put highlighter on my skin and then they made the comment that I looked like a simpson lol.

on the pigmentation I also noticed that the following days my sun-damage spots became darker looking, I think that perhaps the anthelios works for some but for me it doesn't.

IMO regardless of how many studies are out there saying whatever, I think is best to go with what works for you,
in my case I am just going to avoid products that contain ingredients like avobenzone because it is known to degrade
with the sun.

- a person uses sun block to protect them self from the sun, but who is going to protect the anthelios from the sun lol, it just doent make sense to use a product that contain ingedients that degrade with the sun and on top of it let you burn.

I know I sound upset, and I kind of am because i wasted money on a product that does not work.

Yes, where did you buy it? It is good stuff if you buy the right one with high enough PPD.

Here is a post from KM that explains some of the SPF, PPD and stability issues:

http://missjfacialplasticsurgery.com/missjforum/yaf_postst5083_Why-do-we-get-darker-skin-as-we-age.aspx

You can buy LRP with varying degrees of PPD, if you don't get one with the right PPD (high enough) it won't do what you expect. I totally trust her opinion on sunscreens.

KM wrote a book on sunscreens/blocks so I'm thinking she's probably very, very well-versed in the chemistry of it all.

With all of that said, I got it on a couple of my white tops (around the neck of the tops) when I was putting on the LRP and it stained my tops yellow. It goes on white, but in contact with my white cotton tops it stains the neckline yellow when it dries. Maybe KM knows why that would be.

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Don't blame you kk25. That stuff is pricey. But a lot of people seem to like it.

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Can hardly walk. Need hip replacement.

lol, yes it is pricey.

I am thinking it might work great on European/Caucasian skin, but on someone with ethnic skin like me
i think the shiseido one works better and gives more protection from the sun, perhaps because the stronger melanin
on ethnic skin .

No, it doesn't, it provides only about 1/3 the protection when used correctly. And since most people don't use nearly enough of it (or reapply it often enough) they won't be getting substantial protection from UVA.

If you don't like LRP, then try Bioderma. You might like the sprays more than the lotions. They do have a darker, tinted version of each (Bioderma and LRP) but they are pricey.

I would be much more concerned about my skin, which is not disposable, than my clothes.

I'll strongly urge you to keep looking. There are some sellers that will provide samples. Avenes are also worth considering. Here:

http://www.skincarecentral.biz/skincare-samples.html

USA actives (most lack Mexoryl SX, Mexoryl XL, Tinosorbs) (PPD unknown, PFA 26 may be approximately PPD 13):
Avobenzone 3% (sunscreen)
Homosalate 15% (suncreen)
Octisalate 5% (sunscreen)
Octocrylene 5% (sunscreen)
Oxybenzone 6% (sunscreen)

except for the 15 Daily Moisturizer (PPD 15):
Mexoryl SX
Avobenzone
Octocrylene

Canada 45 spray (lacks Tinosorbs) (PPD 22):
octocrylene -- 10%,
avobenzone -- 3.5%,
titanium dioxide -- 3.3%,
drometrizole trisiloxane (Mexoryl XL) -- 3%,
terephathalylidene dicamphor sulfonic acid (Mexoryl SX) -- 2%

XL 60 (lacks Tinosorbs) (probably PPD high 20s):
Octocrylene -- 10%,
titanium dioxide -- 4.15%,
avobenzone -- 3.5%,
drometrizone trisiloxane (Mexoryl XL) -- 3%,
terephthalylidene dicamphor sulfonic acid (Mexoryl SX) -- 3%

Euro:

Dermo-Peds Lait 50+, others are similar (PPD 28):
Titanium Dioxide
Butyl Methoxydibenzoylmethane (Avobenzone)
Bis-Ethylhexyloxyphenol Methoxyphenyl Triazine (Tinosorb S)
Octocrylene,
Terephthalylidene Dicamphor Sulfonic Acid (Mexoryl SX)
Ethylhexyl Triazone,
Drometrizole Trisiloxane (Mexoryl XL)