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Bugjune
Posted: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:44:02 PM
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(MissJ: here is my revised STICKY on the MixTo procdure, with the RIGHT diagnosis finally given. You can revise the title!)

Just wanted to update everyone on my third and final diagnosis for the infection I had after my MixTo procedure. This afternoon, I saw a dermatologist, who basically confirmed what my GP doc had said 2 days ago: this was STAPH. The infection goes by different names, but it is basically the same animal: a toxic staph bacteria that poisons the entire body, and can be life-threatening if not treated in a timely fashion with antibiotic.

The good news is that he also confirmed what my GP doc had said: my prognosis looks GOOD! I'll make a full recovery and (ironically) have great results from the MixTo. This dermatologist has done Fraxel laser treatments, so he is familiar with what the outcome from fractional CO2 laser and what it should look like. Seeing the pictures of my burned, raw, putrifying skin after MixTo, he said, it should NOT look like that.

Lesson learned: go to the expert for treatment in that particular field.

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My Goal – Facial Skin Rejuvenation

As many of you already know, I opted to get the MixTo Microfractional CO2 Laser skin resurfacing treatment in May of 2010. At 54, I had fine lines, a few wrinkles, and smattering of age spots on my face, neck and chest that I hoped to rejuvenate with a single treatment, which is what my doctor had said would be possible with MixTo.

Facial Rejuvenation Options: Peels, Microdermabrasion, Lasers

While the MixTo technology has been around for more than 25 years outside of the U.S., it is still relatively new here, with early-adopters in the dermatology and cosmetic surgery industries making the investment in equipment and training only in the past few years. In the right hands, MixTo can deliver highly satisfying results and noticeable improvement in skin texture after just one treatment. But before jumping on the bandwagon, each patient has to explore their medical history, problem areas, desired outcomes, and alternative treatments with their doctor first.

Chemical peels and dermabrasion can be affordable and even less aggressive treatments than laser for skin rejuvenation. There is a quick comparison of these two treatments at: http://tinyurl.com/2bc3w26
A confusing array of other types of laser, such as Fraxel, ActiveFX, SmartXide, ProFractional, and more are also possibilities to explore. You can compare various laser options here: http://fractionalc02.com/co2laserblog/brief-overview-of-laser-devices/. Some technologies are ideal for acne scarring, others target capillaries, freckles or age spots; still others claim to eliminate fine lines and wrinkles, with visible tightening of the skin after just one treatment. It so happens that the MixTo lays claim to addressing all these issues.

How Do You Know What Treatment Is Best for You?

In general, a person's age, skin color, texture and thickness, nature of skin damage, and even one's budget will determine the best route to take for skin resurfacing. The Mayo Clinic provides an overview of what you can expect from laser skin resurfacing, in general: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/laser-resurfacing/MY00560/DSECTION=why-its-done In particular, this procedure does come with a set of risks that you have to be comfortable with: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/laser-resurfacing/MY00560/DSECTION=risks

If the patient and doctor agree that MixTo laser is the best way to go, and the doctor is highly skilled in administering this treatment (as evidenced by before-and-after shots, number of patients treated, etc.,) the patient needs to be completely familiar with what the treatment entails before, during and after. The MixTo website provides an FAQ with a brief overview of the technology and what the patient can expect during and after the treatment: http://www.mixtoskinresurfacing.com/patients/frequently_asked_questions.html

You need to take the information in this FAQ with a big grain of salt! I can honestly say, having gone through this procedure on my face, neck and chest with what was described as “conservative over-all, a bit more aggressive around the eyes and mouth” this is NOT a weekend procedure after which a person can blithely return to work. Nor can the patient be treated and drive themselves home; they are often administered a mild sedative to relax them prior to the procedure.

Are You Ready to Take the Plunge?

You may think that having researched all the options for skin rejuvenation and found that MixTo laser is the optimal choice, that you can relax and focus on the outcome. Here is where you need to STOP and re-evaluate the decision, as well as who will administer it.

Prior to getting any form of facial laser treatment, you will be prescribed one and possibly two medications: an acyclovir-based anti-viral to prevent the outbreak of Herpes Simplex Type I cold sores, and an antibiotic to suppress any post-treatment infection. There is disagreement in the medical community as to whether an antibiotic should be given, because too many courses of antibiotic can give rise to drug-resistant strains. In general, dermatologists prefer to prescribe an antibiotic, but my doctor, a plastic reconstructive surgeon, opted not to. He knows that I am a healthy, non-smoker, who exercises regularly, maintains my body weight, eats healthy, and has no medical pre-conditions. It seemed like a no-brainer.

I Was the “Perfect Storm” Waiting to Happen

After my MixTo laser treatment, I was sent back to my hotel room with a bag of supplies (Aquaphor, popsicle sticks to abrade the skin, and gauzes) to administer to my own post-procedure recovery. I didn't know at the time that this procedure is essentially a controlled second degree burn – the very kind of trauma that typically sends a person to a hospital to recover under professional medical care.

The MixTo laser obliterates one out of every five cells on the skin surface, leaving 4 healthy cells to pull together, tighten the skin, and speed recovery with less damage and downtime. All it takes is one destroyed cell to act as a doorway for staph to enter the body. Within 48 hours, I had an infected eye. I didn't know it at the time, but the staph bacteria was already coursing through my bloodstream and poisoning my entire body.

Over the next week, I developed a fever, which gradually rose to 103.7 F degrees. At the same time, I had all the classic symptoms of a staph infection: vomiting, diarrhea, vivid purple skin, swollen hands and feet, bright red palms, mouth sores, achy joints. In my ignorance, far from home and not knowing any general practitioner in the area, I thought I had a severe reaction to the anti-viral drug, Valtrex. I stopped taking that, but my symptoms only got worse as the days went by.

Finally, my husband insisted that I return to my surgeon for a diagnosis. My doctor was in surgery all day, but his nurse took one look at me, took some vital signs, asked the right questions, and made an executive decision: I needed antibiotic. And I needed it NOW. She hooked up an IV, and I sat for 4.5 hours in the office getting a slow drip of antibiotic plus fluids. I later learned from two other doctors, one a general practitioner, the other a dermatologist, that it was her fast action that saved my life. But my journey was far from over.

Getting the Right Diagnosis Can Save Your Life

Even after getting the IV, I was never advised to see a doctor or dermatologist right away. Instead, I relied on my surgeon to diagnose me and suggest a course of action. He erroneously speculated that I had an allergic reaction to Valtrex, but he also took a culture of my putrifying, freshly-lasered skin, and put me on a 9-day course of Keflex antibiotic – days after the infection had already set in. When the lab report came back, he could see the culprit: staphylococcus bacteria – luckily the kind that responds to antibiotic, and not the drug-resistant variety. Despite having that evidence in his hands, he still did not insist that I see a primary care physician, and I, not knowing any better, limped along, returning to my hotel room, then coming home again, thinking I was on the road to recovery.

The staph infection completely derailed my recovery from MixTo, which in itself could take up to 3 weeks for the skin to heal and recover to the point where you can appear in public (with or without makeup as your choosing). In the weeks following my MixTo treatment, I experienced hugely swollen feet and ankles (a sign that the kidney is not functioning, and lymph system is overwhelmed). I broke out in a strange rash all along my neck and chest, then my chin. My hands and bottoms of feet peeled sheets of skin, and I developed painful blisters around my lips and mouth.

I was in frequent contact with my MixTo doctor, believing his diagnoses on the fly: first the allergic reaction to Valtrex (which I reported to the manufacturer and the FDA), then Herpes Simplex Type I virus, finally candida fungus. In short, he was groping in a medical area far out of his area of expertise, but unwilling or unable to hand off the situation to a specialist. And I was doing internet research and running out and buying products to help with first one diagnosis, then the other!

At my one-month follow-up appointment with my MixTo doctor, he advised me to have a soothing, healing, medical grade oxygen facial. Not knowing any better, I agreed, and my traumatized, lasered skin was once again compromised with gels, a strong blast of O2, and facial massage with an oily concoction of herbs that resulted in even more inflammation!

Finally, the Right Diagnosis and Treatment

Five weeks after my MixTo treatment, I took it upon myself to see a GP doctor. He viewed my pictures, post-MixTo treatment, heard the progression of symptoms, and declared, “This was no drug reaction. You had Staphylococcal Scalded Skin Syndrome. http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/788199-overview Seeing how badly you were burned from the MixTo, I would have admitted you to a burn ward of a hospital asap.” A few days later, I saw a dermatologist, who basically confirmed that opinion, saying I had a life-threatening case of Toxic Shock Syndrome http://www.emedicinehealth.com/toxic_shock_syndrome/article_em.htm the result of a staph infection that went undiagnosed and untreated for several days. He said, “You should have been admitted to a hospital immediately when the fever and vivid skin discoloration occurred. It's likely that the nurse who administered the IV saved your life.”

Both the GP doctor and dermatologist have since told me that the best treatment for burned skin is NO treatment: just leave it alone. Except for gentle cleansers, Aquaphor, light moisturizers, and a good sunblock, I don't need a thing. They both felt the O2 facial was inappropriate and actually detrimental to my new skin. The dermatologist said it's going to take at least three months until all the redness resolves from my new skin - which is especially prominent under and around my eyes. During this time of healing, he recommends that I abstain from any makeup - just use the best sunblock I can find.

The good news is that the IV I had at my MixTo doctor's office and subsequent course of Keflex antibiotic killed the staph for good. I am personally relieved that I don't have either Herpes Simplex Type I, which would be with me for life with future outbreaks, nor candida fungus, which would've required yet another course of medication. More important, I learned that when a health crisis strikes, you simply MUST take it upon yourself to see an expert. Do NOT rely on a medical professional outside of that area, and when in doubt, see a family physician first. Priority number one is to get the right diagnosis as fast as you can, so you can begin the right treatment.

For Elective Procedures, Always Have A Plan to Handle Crises

I have shared my road to recovery and the before-and-after shots with you here, as well as at other plastic surgery message boards, in the hopes of preventing others from going willy-nilly into ANY laser skin resurfacing procedure without knowing beforehand what the procedure entails, a likely roadmap to recovery, drugs that you may need examine closely for reactions and interactions, and finally, what other options exist outside of lasers for skin rejuvenation. I would urge anyone going into an elective procedure to have a plan for a possible untoward consequence, because ultimately that alone may save your life.

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barbiegirl
Posted: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 10:04:36 PM
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OMG Bug! You were septic! That is sooo scary, thank God the nurse got those IV antibiotics in you when she did or you could have been a squashed Bug :(

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I changed the sticky to the new content.

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Posted: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 10:29:34 PM
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I think DCNGA should 'translate' your entry to give it more of laser horror story effect.

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Bugjune
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I didn't want to lose credibility with an overly dramatic account. Just the facts. Let folks decide after reading it. At least I have the FINAL story now, confirmed by two doctors.

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I think DCNGA should 'translate' your entry to give it more of laser horror story effect.


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MissJ
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I'm locking this thread because it's best the conversation about this is on the STICKY:
http://www.missjfacialplasticsurgery.com/missjforum/yaf_postst4861_Scalded-Skin-Syndrom-and-toxic-shock-subsequent-to-Laser-procedure.aspx

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Posted: Thursday, June 17, 2010 3:20:04 PM
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OK, unlocked it if you want to discuss in this thread. But if you discuss in the STICKY, then it will stay on top.

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My main comment here is that no matter how careful you are, how much research you do, and how hard you try there's just no guarantees with these damn cosmetic devices. They are a coin toss.

I know the same could be said of any elective medical procedure but most of them are tried and true. If not, docs would be getting sued right and left.

You can't sue the makers of an FDA approved medical device. Few, if any, of the new devices tossed on the market are fully vetted. Think of how many have come out just in the last three years! No way we know the long term effects of these things. We can guess and we can assume that the long term will be okay, but no one knows because they have not been around long enough to know anything for sure. Take the Thermage fiasco from a few years ago. Then they came out with the second generation of Thermage and they SWORE there were no more problems. I call BS on that because I've been in contact with a second generation Thermage fat loss victim. And here I sit having had an ablative laser myself 3.5 years ago. I trusted a doctor who trusted a salesman trying to make $$. Then the doctor needed to find a way to pay for that $100K machine and the cycle continues.

Plastic surgeons need to do surgery and stay away from treating the skin. My derm told me this after I went to him after the Erbium. He was ticked off at me for not talking to him first and he told me to NEVER let another PS treat my skin.

I'm just glad you found doctors who were skilled and diagnosed you. Your episode is one of the scariest I've heard in all of my time communicating with cosmetic device victims in terms of having a near fatal experience. I truly think your PS was 1000% at fault on many levels. He was border-line negligent IMO. Thank God for his nurse.



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Bugjune
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Thanks for unlocking this thread again, MissJ, cuz there are still a LOT of feelings BURNING in me to come out.

Yes DCNGA, this was also the scariest health issue I've ever faced, too. Makes me feel like a super DUMB-ASS donkey to have gone through it. I even asked my husband last night, "Did this whole ordeal happen cuz we're getting old? How can we, at age 55, NOT know when to go see a proper specialist?" He just said, "We believed in the MixTo doc (name withheld to protect his shabby anonymity!) - he seemed knowledgeable and credible, we'd both had plastic surgery done by him and liked the outcome."

But I had a previous near-death experience with this same doc 6 years ago: I was given ketamine anesthesia for 6.5 hours STRAIGHT during my face work and lipo. Ended up recovering in the hospital next door to his facility. Now here I am again, another near-death experience thanks to his flailing about for a diagnosis when the physical symptoms staring him in the face pointed to systemic staph infection. In future, even I will be able to tell when I need to go to the hospital: high fever, livid skin color, swollen hands and feet, nausea and diarrhea. As simple as that.

I sent this doc a summary after seeing the derm doc yesterday - pretty grim in its details. Got a 3-sentence response from the MixTo doc: "...It's always easier to make diagnoses in hindsight. Call the office for your next follow-up." You'd think any reputable doc doing laser resurfacing of such a huge area would KNOW the signs of toxic staph infection, yah? And I got out the surgical handout for my MixTo - NOWHERE on that "post-treatment care" page was ANY info on WHAT to look out for after the procedure: things like high fever, livid skin color, nausea, etc.,

I'm just thoroughly DISGUSTED with this situation, and have no intention of EVER going to this doc for any procedure or damn-fool follow-up again.

There. I vented. I feel better.

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I'm just glad you found doctors who were skilled and diagnosed you. Your episode is one of the scariest I've heard in all of my time communicating with cosmetic device victims in terms of having a near fatal experience. I truly think your PS was 1000% at fault on many levels. He was border-line negligent IMO. Thank God for his nurse.



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MissJ
Posted: Thursday, June 17, 2010 10:42:28 PM
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If you collect the links for me of all the strings discussing the progress of this, I can put them on the sticky so people can find for example this string where it's being discussed. I was trying to get the discussion on the sticky but probably better to put links on the stick to the strings where we discuss it.

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Some of the problems that happen with these devices are over the doctors head. They are not conversant in the bad sequella and how to ID and treat. The doctors buy into the hype of the laser industry and there are TONS of docs using lasers who are going to be clueless about some of the bad sequella. Bug June's certainly was.




DCNGA wrote:
My main comment here is that no matter how careful you are, how much research you do, and how hard you try there's just no guarantees with these damn cosmetic devices. They are a coin toss.

I know the same could be said of any elective medical procedure but most of them are tried and true. If not, docs would be getting sued right and left.

You can't sue the makers of an FDA approved medical device. Few, if any, of the new devices tossed on the market are fully vetted. Think of how many have come out just in the last three years! No way we know the long term effects of these things. We can guess and we can assume that the long term will be okay, but no one knows because they have not been around long enough to know anything for sure. Take the Thermage fiasco from a few years ago. Then they came out with the second generation of Thermage and they SWORE there were no more problems. I call BS on that because I've been in contact with a second generation Thermage fat loss victim. And here I sit having had an ablative laser myself 3.5 years ago. I trusted a doctor who trusted a salesman trying to make $$. Then the doctor needed to find a way to pay for that $100K machine and the cycle continues.

Plastic surgeons need to do surgery and stay away from treating the skin. My derm told me this after I went to him after the Erbium. He was ticked off at me for not talking to him first and he told me to NEVER let another PS treat my skin.

I'm just glad you found doctors who were skilled and diagnosed you. Your episode is one of the scariest I've heard in all of my time communicating with cosmetic device victims in terms of having a near fatal experience. I truly think your PS was 1000% at fault on many levels. He was border-line negligent IMO. Thank God for his nurse.



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I think you should give the NAME of this doc. The comment about 'always easier in hindsite' was INSENSATE and denies his responsibility to CORRECTLY DIAGNOSE the sequella you had to HIS treatment. If he's using such a device to kick up 2ncd degree BURNS, he damn well should be familiar with what kind of germs can get into EXPOSED skin when no anti biotics are given.

I think you should get a LAWYER and either start a litigation process with him or a settlement process. The only reason not to name him would be if you were going to litigate.

As for his INITIAL judgment call not to give anti-biotics, preventative ABs are needed when one KNOWS they are giving a OPEN SURFACE AREA BURN simply because so much 'stuff' (germs, pathogens) can enter EXPOSED SKIN and vasoline (Aquaphor is that with water) is not going to prevent that. An open surface area BURN justifies the ABs where as something like a face lift, might not if one were concerned about over use of ABs



Bugjune wrote:
Thanks for unlocking this thread again, MissJ, cuz there are still a LOT of feelings BURNING in me to come out.

Yes DCNGA, this was also the scariest health issue I've ever faced, too. Makes me feel like a super DUMB-ASS donkey to have gone through it. I even asked my husband last night, "Did this whole ordeal happen cuz we're getting old? How can we, at age 55, NOT know when to go see a proper specialist?" He just said, "We believed in the MixTo doc (name withheld to protect his shabby anonymity!) - he seemed knowledgeable and credible, we'd both had plastic surgery done by him and liked the outcome."

But I had a previous near-death experience with this same doc 6 years ago: I was given ketamine anesthesia for 6.5 hours STRAIGHT during my face work and lipo. Ended up recovering in the hospital next door to his facility. Now here I am again, another near-death experience thanks to his flailing about for a diagnosis when the physical symptoms staring him in the face pointed to systemic staph infection. In future, even I will be able to tell when I need to go to the hospital: high fever, livid skin color, swollen hands and feet, nausea and diarrhea. As simple as that.

I sent this doc a summary after seeing the derm doc yesterday - pretty grim in its details. Got a 3-sentence response from the MixTo doc: "...It's always easier to make diagnoses in hindsight. Call the office for your next follow-up." You'd think any reputable doc doing laser resurfacing of such a huge area would KNOW the signs of toxic staph infection, yah? And I got out the surgical handout for my MixTo - NOWHERE on that "post-treatment care" page was ANY info on WHAT to look out for after the procedure: things like high fever, livid skin color, nausea, etc.,

I'm just thoroughly DISGUSTED with this situation, and have no intention of EVER going to this doc for any procedure or damn-fool follow-up again.

There. I vented. I feel better.

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MissJ wrote:
If you collect the links for me of all the strings discussing the progress of this, I can put them on the sticky so people can find for example this string where it's being discussed. I was trying to get the discussion on the sticky but probably better to put links on the stick to the strings where we discuss it.



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OK! Here are all the related links, from oldest to newest, concerning my MixTo “journey”:

MixTo Microfractional CO2 Laser Done Today
http://missjfacialplasticsurgery.com/missjforum/yaf_postst4753_MixTo-Microfractional-CO2-Laser-Done--Today.aspx

Bug Revealed!
http://missjfacialplasticsurgery.com/missjforum/yaf_postst4830_Bug-Revealed.aspx

I've Got a Turmeric Mask On – Hope It Helps!
http://missjfacialplasticsurgery.com/missjforum/yaf_postst4885_Ive-Got-a-Turmeric-Mask-On--hope-it-helps.aspx

I Have Herpes Type I Now
http://missjfacialplasticsurgery.com/missjforum/yaf_postst4898_I-have-Herpes-Type-I-now.aspx

I DON'T have Herpes! I have “Staphylococcal Scalded Skin Syndrome”
http://missjfacialplasticsurgery.com/missjforum/yaf_postst4914_I-DONT-have-Herpes-I-have-Staphylococcal-Scalded-Skin-Syndrome.aspx

And Now, the Final Diagnosis: Yes, It's Staph! Toxic Shock Syndrome
http://missjfacialplasticsurgery.com/missjforum/yaf_postst4922_And-Now-the-Final-Diagnosis-Yes-Its-Staph-Toxic-Shock-Syndrome.aspx



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Bugjune, don't be too hard on yourself for making the decision to have the procedure. You trusted him and he's an ASSH*LE, and obviously has NO ethical or moral sense of responsiblity for YOU, his PATIENT. UGH. His flippant attitude infuriates me.I'm just shaking, I'm so mad. He nearly killed you. We're so so glad you're OK. "Follow up" my ASS. You should, at the very least, get a full refund, and better yet, DAMAGES for the pain and suffering his negligence caused you. I'm just so thankful the nurse gave you the IV...so thankful. Hang in there, and I know you just want to heal and put it behind you, but still...hope he doesn't get a pass on this second time of endangering your life. GRRRRRRRR!!!!!

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Tell him that in 'hindsight', you should have never chosen HIM as your doctor. Also tell him you are telling all your 'friends' about your experience so they can choose with FORESIGHT from your hindsight.




Bugjune wrote:
Thanks for unlocking this thread again, MissJ, cuz there are still a LOT of feelings BURNING in me to come out.

Yes DCNGA, this was also the scariest health issue I've ever faced, too. Makes me feel like a super DUMB-ASS donkey to have gone through it. I even asked my husband last night, "Did this whole ordeal happen cuz we're getting old? How can we, at age 55, NOT know when to go see a proper specialist?" He just said, "We believed in the MixTo doc (name withheld to protect his shabby anonymity!) - he seemed knowledgeable and credible, we'd both had plastic surgery done by him and liked the outcome."

But I had a previous near-death experience with this same doc 6 years ago: I was given ketamine anesthesia for 6.5 hours STRAIGHT during my face work and lipo. Ended up recovering in the hospital next door to his facility. Now here I am again, another near-death experience thanks to his flailing about for a diagnosis when the physical symptoms staring him in the face pointed to systemic staph infection. In future, even I will be able to tell when I need to go to the hospital: high fever, livid skin color, swollen hands and feet, nausea and diarrhea. As simple as that.

I sent this doc a summary after seeing the derm doc yesterday - pretty grim in its details. Got a 3-sentence response from the MixTo doc: "...It's always easier to make diagnoses in hindsight. Call the office for your next follow-up." You'd think any reputable doc doing laser resurfacing of such a huge area would KNOW the signs of toxic staph infection, yah? And I got out the surgical handout for my MixTo - NOWHERE on that "post-treatment care" page was ANY info on WHAT to look out for after the procedure: things like high fever, livid skin color, nausea, etc.,

I'm just thoroughly DISGUSTED with this situation, and have no intention of EVER going to this doc for any procedure or damn-fool follow-up again.

There. I vented. I feel better.

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Posted: Friday, June 18, 2010 2:37:02 AM
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I'm glad you are finally being treated correctly. What a horrible experience for you Bugjune. It was very human of you to trust him, especially as you were away from home, and didn't have your regular doctors there. Hopefully you will recover 100%.
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I so agree! And you are compassionate and understanding to share your thoughts.

Perhaps he was also terse in the email cuz he doesn't want anything incriminating put in writing. But geez, you'd think HE'd be calling ME to say, "Let's work this out. It wasn't the ideal patient outcome. I'd like to compensate you with .... " SOMETHING. And not another MixTo for free.

Yes, I do just want to heal so badly now. My mouth looks like a clown! All slathered in Desitin, those painful blister/bumps just keep erupting.


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Shaz wrote:
Bugjune, don't be too hard on yourself for making the decision to have the procedure. You trusted him and he's an ASSH*LE, and obviously has NO ethical or moral sense of responsiblity for YOU, his PATIENT. UGH. His flippant attitude infuriates me.I'm just shaking, I'm so mad. He nearly killed you. We're so so glad you're OK. "Follow up" my ASS. You should, at the very least, get a full refund, and better yet, DAMAGES for the pain and suffering his negligence caused you. I'm just so thankful the nurse gave you the IV...so thankful. Hang in there, and I know you just want to heal and put it behind you, but still...hope he doesn't get a pass on this second time of endangering your life. GRRRRRRRR!!!!!


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Bugjune
Posted: Friday, June 18, 2010 10:39:17 AM
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HA! HA!!! MissJ, that gave me a long-overdue belly-laugh. Perfect. I love it.

I just added my toxic LEGS shot to the album over at MMH:

http://www.makemeheal.com/pictures/laser-treatments/bugjune-s-mixto-procedure-a11333
Password: BugsMixTo

Worth a peek to see how purple my legs were. Toxic shock/scalded skin staph infection will turn the skin a livid purple - not a raised, bumpy rash, but just flat purple. Looks like every capillary in my legs burst open. That took about a week to resolve, and now I understand why: the staph toxins had to be carried away by my poor, struggling lymph.

You know, for about 2 weeks after that disaster, first my inner thighs, then the tops of my feet just ACHED like a bruise. I think that was lymph working overtime, too. I just kept working the process with self-administered lymph massages.


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MissJ wrote:
Tell him that in 'hindsight', you should have never chosen HIM as your doctor. Also tell him you are telling all your 'friends' about your experience so they can choose with FORESIGHT from your hindsight.


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DCNGA
Posted: Friday, June 18, 2010 5:06:13 PM
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Bug, you got such a short reply because he is FEARFUL you are going to sue him. He does not want anything else in writing, I bet. You have not one but TWO doctors who've basically said he treated you improperly.

I truly would send him a letter, outline all that happened, including all of his misdiagnosis and failur to send you to a specialist and then the subsequent diagnosis you received from two doctors, one of whom is a SKIN SPECIALIST. Then (unless you want to sue him for not meeting the standard of care or sheer negligence), tell him you don't have plans to move forward with a lawsuit but you want EVERY PENNY of your money refunded, plus what all of the lab costs were, the two other doctor's costs, and all medication. If you don't plan to sue, you certainly deserve reimbursement for what he cost you. Most doctors would gladly give you your money back if you don't sue (but you will probably have to sign a waiver saying you won't sue in the future).

But, you might also want to wait and make sure all is 100% okay and to make sure you have no further repercussions (but I think you are going to be fine) in case you do decide to start a formal lawsuit for negligence.

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MissJ
Posted: Friday, June 18, 2010 9:11:06 PM
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You should UPDATE your REVIEW of him on MMH or maybe put a LINK to here to your sticky.
You gave the guy a great review in 2006. He needs a NEGATIVE one now.


Bugjune wrote:
HA! HA!!! MissJ, that gave me a long-overdue belly-laugh. Perfect. I love it.

I just added my toxic LEGS shot to the album over at MMH:

http://www.makemeheal.com/pictures/laser-treatments/bugjune-s-mixto-procedure-a11333
Password: BugsMixTo

Worth a peek to see how purple my legs were. Toxic shock/scalded skin staph infection will turn the skin a livid purple - not a raised, bumpy rash, but just flat purple. Looks like every capillary in my legs burst open. That took about a week to resolve, and now I understand why: the staph toxins had to be carried away by my poor, struggling lymph.

You know, for about 2 weeks after that disaster, first my inner thighs, then the tops of my feet just ACHED like a bruise. I think that was lymph working overtime, too. I just kept working the process with self-administered lymph massages.


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