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Is here any such thing? I take fish oil daily, along with VitD. Is there anything else I can take to help with this awful tendinitis in my elbow/wrists and shoulder? I just finished my second dose pack of Medrol and would like to take something less (long term) harmful to my body. Any suggestions? Thanks!
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I take Noni juice. It tastes somewhat unpleasant, but you only need a few ounces a day. (I pretend it's Tequilla and take a swig from the bottle 2x daily.) It supposedly has a lot of benefits, from pain relief, help with sleep, digestion, etc. Actually I did not think it worked at first. I bought some bottles and choked them down until they finally ran out and vowed never to buy any more. After being off it for about a week, I began hurting again and realized that the Noni really had been helping with my pain. It takes time to work, but it does. Otherwise I would not keep buying and drinking it. I started my 12 year old corgi on it (a pet version), and I can definitely see that it helps with his pain too, because he is now navigating stairs with no hesitation. There have been a number of noni juice scams from multi-level marketing companies, saying it cures everything, but I buy mine here (not a MLM company) and it's organic: http://www.bioinnovations.net/prodinfo.asp?number=ON31032&variation=&aitem=2&mitem=7
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Try a very high fruit and vegetable diet for life, at least 5 fruit and at least 7 servings of vegetables per day. I aim for 20 total. http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content-nw/full/83/3/567/T5
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Aspirin. I have similar going on from too much typing at computer--ulnar injury, pain in elbow bone and hands. I keep a bottle of aspirin near computer. Also am trying something callled; 'nerve fix' but it's expensive. DCNGA wrote:Is here any such thing? I take fish oil daily, along with VitD. Is there anything else I can take to help with this awful tendinitis in my elbow/wrists and shoulder? I just finished my second dose pack of Medrol and would like to take something less (long term) harmful to my body. Any suggestions?
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DCNGA: is your elbow/wrist/shoulder pain something that could be relieved with an ergonometric re-configuration? Maybe lower the laptop/keyboard or adjust your chair somehow for a better fit? Or is this due to past injury that may benefit from some kind of targeted physical therapy (my bible is Robin McKenzie's book on back/neck trauma: "7 Steps to a Pain-Free Life - available at Amazon.com)? I have a bottle of baby aspirin that I look at ... and look at ... I know it's recommended for folks over 50 to prevent heart attack and stroke. But now recent studies show that UNLESS your family has a history of these health risks, you may be better off not taking aspirin - cuz it also causes stomach ulceration. I know Bromelain is a homeopathic anti-inflammatory, but I don't know how many pills one would have to take to see results. And o'course cortisone injections are anti-inflammatory - with a host of side-effects that may cancel out the benefit. Well, perhaps you could see a neurologist and see if there's anything new out there. Good luck and let us know what you learn. ==================== DCNGA wrote:Is here any such thing? I take fish oil daily, along with VitD. Is there anything else I can take to help with this awful tendinitis in my elbow/wrists and shoulder? I just finished my second dose pack of Medrol and would like to take something less (long term) harmful to my body. Any suggestions?
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DCNGA wrote:Is here any such thing? I take fish oil daily, along with VitD. Is there anything else I can take to help with this awful tendinitis in my elbow/wrists and shoulder? I just finished my second dose pack of Medrol and would like to take something less (long term) harmful to my body. Any suggestions?
Thanks! DC: So sorry that you are in pain - you mentioned this in the speed dating post too - I HATE being in pain and I hate seeing people in pain - I think the root cause of your pain is lack of hormones - do something about that - I know you worry about getting cancer etc with that - but if I was in the kind of pain you are I would not think twice - also soaking in warm water with Magnesium salts is supposed to be good for you - also, have you tried acupuncture? or Yoga? Hope you feel better Larazelle Hotels in Cleveland
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My Naturopath swears by Serapeptase as a natural anti inflammatory/pain reliever. Apparently it also helps to eat up scar tissue as it's the enzyme silk worms use to eat up their hard cocoons. I made a post about it quite some time ago but got no traction. I started taking it for my nasal allergy problems and I felt it worked sometimes, but I would forget to take it on an empty stomach as directed. It's a promising "new and upcoming" enzyme in the natural health world from what I'm told.
Also have read that MSM (organic sulfur) is good for connective tissue, pain, inflammation etc.. Pretty inexpensive too. Comes in soap, cream, and pill form. I use the facial soap. I'd continue the fish oil and vitamin d; Dr. Gunson told me to take it to help with my jaw joints so they'll be healthy and less inflamed for surgery.
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tumeric or curcumin is a natural anti-inflammatory. you can use it in food alone (like as a spice, or mix with salad dressing for example), or mix it with olive oil and pepper to maximize the effects (and put on veggies for example), or take it in pill form.
good luck and hope you feel better!
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For joint lumbrication, i think the combo is: GlucoseAmine Sulfate, MSM, Chondriaton, hyaluronic acid and Boswella. With that, ginger, cayenne pepper and garlic.
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Thanks, everyone. I've had nearly everything for it over the years--all modes of PT, massage therapy and acupuncture. Sure wish I could take aspirin but my stomach issues preclude anything that would 'inflame' my stomach--aspirin, ibuprofen, NSAIDs, etc. Sigh. I've bought splints, wraps, keyboards, mice, chairs and nothing really seems to affect it. I need to be away from a keyboard for 6 weeks and can't, due to work. I don't work for an understanding company and should I claim RSI from keyboarding they would find a reason (eventually) to get rid of me. I need my job so I push on (not meaning to sound like a martyr). I'll look into some of the supplements recommended here. Thanks to you all.
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You could try tart red unsweetened cherry juice. It tastes good and is full of antioxidants. My husband had chronic shoulder and back pain. With in two days he said "I hate to hope but I think this stuff is working. He told his br.-in-law about it and it is working for him also. The br.-in-law had polio as a child, had recently had hip surgery and nothing was helping with the daily achiness & pain. The cherry juice isn't a miracle but they both say that NOTHING else they have tried has worked this well. http://www.brownwoodacres.com/cherry_juice_concentrate.php?gclid=CN-_nbWdnaACFctx5QodN2KKhwhttp://www.shoporganic.com/product/knudsen-organic-just-tart-cherry-juice/juice_nectars_concentratesOne of our grocery stores carries a pure, unsweetened tart cherry juice that costs $6.00 for 32oz. They use 1/4 cup once a day.
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You've all made some really good recs. Thank you! I asked my question without googling, but after hearing some of your suggestions, I googled. Here is what I found for "natural anti-inflammatory" and it looks like you guys were all correct! The information on ginger is extremely interesting. I guess I'll take a trip to Whole Foods or farmer's market this weekend to look for some fresh ginger root: http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=72 . Miss J, it may help you also. Quote:Choose from a rainbow of anti-inflammatory botanical. The natural world has so much to offer us in the way of compounds that quiet inflammation in our bodies. Many of these are traditional medicinal foods, herbs, and spices used for centuries in the past, yet whose specific mechanisms of action biochemists are still exploring today. The study of phytotherapy is helping to bring about a whole new range of anti-inflammatory agents that more effectively target the inflammatory cascade, well upstream of where conventional NSAID’s and COX-2 inhibitors cause their damaging and unwanted side effects.
Bioflavonoids. Also called flavones or flavonoids, this is a class of over 5000 plant chemicals that our bodies metabolize in a way that offers strong anti-oxidant, anti-cancer, anti-allergenic, and anti-inflammatory effects. Bioflavonoids include compounds such as quercetin, epicatechin, and oligomeric proanthocyanidins (OPC’s). But don’t let their long names put you off — many occur abundantly in our daily food and drink, such as in citrus fruits, vegetables, tea, cocoa and wine, to name just a few! Others are less well known, or found less widely in nature, or still waiting to be discovered. Most bioflavonoids can also be taken in supplemental form as part of a natural anti-inflammation regimen. Among the best for soothing the inflammatory cascade are quercetin, rutin, and procyanidins (OPC’s) such as those found in pine bark extract (Pycnogenol) and grape seed extract.
Anti-inflammatory herbs. Aside from the large group of bioflavonoids I’ve only touched on above, many herbs have powerful anti-inflammatory actions. Here’s just a sampling.
Boswellia (Boswellia serrata). Also known as Indian frankincense, Boswellia serrata has long been recognized in Ayurvedic medicine for its anti-inflammatory benefits. Today scientists studying extracts of boswellia report that it can switch off key cell signalers and pro-inflammatory mediators known as cytokines in the inflammatory cascade.
Ginger (Zingiber officinalis). Valued for centuries the world over for its medicinal qualities, ginger today is being studied by biochemists and pharmacologists interested in its analgesic, anti-inflammatory, anti-nausea, and sugar-moderating effects in the body. In the past 30 years or so their work has confirmed how ginger shares properties with conventional over-the-counter and prescription NSAID’s, in that it suppresses the synthesis in the body of the pro-inflammatory molecules known as prostaglandins — but with few if any side effects. Recently, however, an even more exciting body of work is emerging that shows how ginger extract can actually inhibit or deactivate genes in our body that encode the molecules involved in chronic inflammation.
Turmeric (Curcuma longa), an ancient culinary spice native to South East Asia, has been used as an anti-inflammatory agent for centuries in Indian Ayurvedic medicine. Also known as cucurmin, it is a mild COX-2 inhibitor, but works differently from the prescription-strength drugs that can increase your risk of myocardial infarction or stroke. Like Boswellia and ginger, it seems to inhibit joint inflammation by preventing the production of prostaglandins and activation of inflammation-regulating genes through its effects on cell-signalling.
Glucosamine–chondroitin. Glucosamine sulfate (1500–2000 mg/day, divided doses) and chondroitin sulfate (~1000 mg/day) are important building blocks in healthy cartilage. As we age, our bodies can’t create these compounds as readily as they do in youth. Glucosamine–chondroitin supplements may help repair damaged tissues, but they are thought to act more principally by delaying progression of joint inflammation and alleviating its symptoms. In other words, they may not have as strong an impact on the underlying causes of chronic inflammation as our other recommendations, but you can certainly ask your healthcare provider about including them in your plan. (If you have shellfish allergies, be sure to check with your healthcare provider before taking these supplements.)
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siredred3: there have been some posts on nasal rinses up here in the past - and I, for one, am an absolute believer! I do a nasal rinse using the squeeze-bottle kit from NeilMed every single day. I typically do the rinse just after coming home (if I have shopping, errands, or gym activities). Just like brushing our teeth and flossing, a daily nasal rinse is a good thing. A packet of basically salt and baking soda is mixed into warm water and just irrigated through the nasal passages (a.k.a. your nostrils!), flushing out allergens, bacteria and viruses. I have absolutely fixed my daily stuffy nose and prevented four colds in the past year just doing the nasal rinse. Think about that for your nasal allergy problem... ======================================= siredred3 wrote:My Naturopath swears by Serapeptase as a natural anti inflammatory/pain reliever. Apparently it also helps to eat up scar tissue as it's the enzyme silk worms use to eat up their hard cocoons. I made a post about it quite some time ago but got no traction. I started taking it for my nasal allergy problems and I felt it worked sometimes, but I would forget to take it on an empty stomach as directed. It's a promising "new and upcoming" enzyme in the natural health world from what I'm told.
Also have read that MSM (organic sulfur) is good for connective tissue, pain, inflammation etc.. Pretty inexpensive too. Comes in soap, cream, and pill form. I use the facial soap. I'd continue the fish oil and vitamin d; Dr. Gunson told me to take it to help with my jaw joints so they'll be healthy and less inflamed for surgery.
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Bugjune wrote:siredred3: there have been some posts on nasal rinses up here in the past - and I, for one, am an absolute believer!
I do a nasal rinse using the squeeze-bottle kit from NeilMed every single day. I typically do the rinse just after coming home (if I have shopping, errands, or gym activities). Just like brushing our teeth and flossing, a daily nasal rinse is a good thing. A packet of basically salt and baking soda is mixed into warm water and just irrigated through the nasal passages (a.k.a. your nostrils!), flushing out allergens, bacteria and viruses.
I have absolutely fixed my daily stuffy nose and prevented four colds in the past year just doing the nasal rinse. Think about that for your nasal allergy problem... =======================================
Yep, I do the same thing, sometimes twice a day. It will even help to speed up recovery from a cold or sinus infection.
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Sorry you are in so much pain D! My favorite soft tissue anti inflammatories are curcumin, digestive enzymes taken away from food (might not be the best option for you with your ongoing stomach problems), and Traumeel drops (15 drops 3 times a day in water) and cream which you can apply topically. MSM, glucosamine and boswelia are all fantastic but are better suited towards bone pain, like arthritis. Feel better soon!
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Bugjune wrote:siredred3: there have been some posts on nasal rinses up here in the past - and I, for one, am an absolute believer!
I do a nasal rinse using the squeeze-bottle kit from NeilMed every single day. I typically do the rinse just after coming home (if I have shopping, errands, or gym activities). Just like brushing our teeth and flossing, a daily nasal rinse is a good thing. A packet of basically salt and baking soda is mixed into warm water and just irrigated through the nasal passages (a.k.a. your nostrils!), flushing out allergens, bacteria and viruses.
I have absolutely fixed my daily stuffy nose and prevented four colds in the past year just doing the nasal rinse. Think about that for your nasal allergy problem...
I have tried over and over to do the sinus rinse thing... Maybe I am just a total wimp, but it is painful and the saline up my nose makes me nauseous and I can't do it. Kudos to those tough enough to handle it; because it really does work wonders for a lot of people.
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I know what you mean because I have a similar thing going on with the repetitive strain from using the key board and mouse so much. Even had to cut back on the morphs/analysis due to that. I just ordered a boat load of supplements but it's so many they are tedious to take each day. Maybe you could go for workman's compensation for RSI. DCNGA wrote:Thanks, everyone. I've had nearly everything for it over the years--all modes of PT, massage therapy and acupuncture. Sure wish I could take aspirin but my stomach issues preclude anything that would 'inflame' my stomach--aspirin, ibuprofen, NSAIDs, etc. Sigh.
I've bought splints, wraps, keyboards, mice, chairs and nothing really seems to affect it. I need to be away from a keyboard for 6 weeks and can't, due to work. I don't work for an understanding company and should I claim RSI from keyboarding they would find a reason (eventually) to get rid of me. I need my job so I push on (not meaning to sound like a martyr).
I'll look into some of the supplements recommended here. Thanks to you all.
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That's more for GOUT though; bony build ups. But even so it has the red anti-oxidants in it and would be good to drink.
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I think CURCUMIN is TUMERIC though--the yellow stuff found in curry powder. Sometimes when a common and cheap thing works, they give it a new name so they can sell supplements. For example for blue berries, the supplement industry will call them 'bilberries' to get you to buy something you dont' have to. Think it's same with curcumin. Pretty sure that is tumeric.
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MissJ wrote:I think CURCUMIN is TUMERIC though--the yellow stuff found in curry powder. Sometimes when a common and cheap thing works, they give it a new name so they can sell supplements. For example for blue berries, the supplement industry will call them 'bilberries' to get you to buy something you dont' have to. Think it's same with curcumin. Pretty sure that is tumeric. Curcumin is the isolated anti inflammatory compenent of turmeric. It is typically more potent if consumed as curcumin than as whole turmeric. New Chapter makes a particularly good curcumin based anti inflammatory called Zyflamend. It is available at most healthfood stores and not too expensive.
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