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Larazelle wrote:
your coworker is an unusual woman to look almost the same age as her boyfriend and feel the same - most 55 year old women I know constantly complain of being "invisible" to men - so her experience is not the norm - and it is not indicative of her generation - also 55 is not really "old" lets wait till she is 65 and see if her boyfriend still wants to swingdance with her - I am not being mean - just rational - the age taboo still exists - because it is built into our DNA - most 65 year olds are not chased by young men - hopefully this woman will not care about this anymore and will be very happy pursuing other pleasures ....
Yes, you are right, her experience is not the norm. But she has been dancing different forms of ballroom for over 30 yrs, so has not been hard for her to remain in decent shape. Her boyfriend actually doesn't look all that great for his age. She has a bit of work done also, so that's why they look about the same age. But she's in fantastic shape since she's been active for many yrs. It's true that in 10 yrs, she may start to look much older and not have as much luck with men. But for now, at least she's living life more fully than her mother at her age and does look and act much younger. But she tells me that many women her age group who happened to be divorced have a different attitude on life and many do have the $$ for p.s. and fillers, etc. to keep up, so they can look decent for their age.
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cindy79 wrote:I like 30-something Leo better.
Me too : P Never really found those boyish looks that appealling in his titanic days, but been hooked on Leo since The Departed. He's definitely not a boy anymore!
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Larazelle wrote:
also 55 is not really "old" lets wait till she is 65 and see if her boyfriend still wants to swingdance with her -
But he will be older too? There is one thing that I never understand. If for example a 40 year old woman is dating a 25 year old guy, that's fine but then people go on to point out when he is 45 she will be 60 like that's really shocking. What is the big deal, they will both get older and the age gap hasn't widened.
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Lazarelle, Check out this lady, from the UK, dancing (wait till the video is past 2 min to really see her move) I know a few people from the UK and Spain who have seen her in person. Some sites claim she's in her 90s, but I heard she's really in her 70s. I'm not saying anyone can be that active at her age, but it's possible. She's been dancing for years, but picked up salsa in her later yrs. My point is that people/women can enjoy life in their later yrs,engaging in activities they enjoy. This is not her boyfriend, but dance partner. She's enjoying life, even if it's not involving any romance. This woman is rare, but I know women 50s,60s+ who do dance well and often. There's places in the city where older people can dance, and not be seen as odd. My point is that even though a woman is older, if she's still fit and active, she can engage in dancing. If she has a man in her life, great, if not, doesn't mean the woman is not enjoying her life. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkHvRCp3z5A
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violeta wrote:Lazarelle, Check out this lady, from the UK, dancing (wait till the video is past 2 min to really see her move) I know a few people from the UK and Spain who have seen her in person. Some sites claim she's in her 90s, but I heard she's really in her 70s. I'm not saying anyone can be that active at her age, but it's possible. She's been dancing for years, but picked up salsa in her later yrs though, past 50. My point is that people/women can enjoy life in their later yrs,engaging in activities they enjoy. This is not her boyfriend, but dance partner. She's enjoying life, even if it's not involving any romance. This woman is rare, but I know women 50s+ who do dance well and often. There's places in the city where older people can dance, and not be seen as odd. But there's always more older men than older women though. I think it's more because women that age group have traditionally been more family oriented and don't all think they can find hobbies outside the home at their age, or feel strange/too old to get out there and take dance class. But still, many women do. Of course, there's not a whole lot of them right now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkHvRCp3z5A Violetta, I totally agree with you. There are always those who's glass is half empty vs half full
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yatterman1 wrote:
Well if you could come up with a logical reason as to why obese women get messages on dating websites everyday that might help your argument.
I kind of hate to throw this in but, my husband and I are *Biggest Loser* fans from the very first season. Ahem.. we agree that it bothers both of us more to see an obese man than an obese woman but we are really not sure as to our reasoning behind thinking this.
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Oh Gawd. If I'm lucky I'll live to 65 ... and still be married to the same guy I met at 19 and married at 24. I imagine I'll look older. But I promise, I'll still bathe daily, floss my teeth, have my hair done, dress proper and try to be civil. Then, if some day I find myself OLD and ALONE I'll just get a dog! Crissake. What's all this about YOUNG! OLD! HOT! NOT! SMOOTH! WRINKLY! Just give me a dog, ok? Unconditional love if that's what I want. I Bug U
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Yatts - I am not trying to *prick* your balloon here ... but you are still NOT gonna get the girl after all this cosmetic work. Until and unless you can relax, be confident, open up and share some value with a gal, she is not gonna be your lifetime partner. Occasional date, maybe. And perhaps that's ok with you. Fine. Why is it that you appear to be some kind of he-she bottled up inside of a body that you keep fighting? You are not at peace within yourself. You are like a batch of peanut brittle just BOILING over the pot. Have you moved out of your parents' house yet? If not, do so. What are you waiting for? =================================== yatterman1 wrote:
If I get the following procedures and I get good results:
two jaw surgery brow bone burring brow lift lip lift canthoplasty ptosis repair
Then my chances of getting a girlfriend in my lifetime will be close to 100 percent.
I Bug U
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Dee wrote:
But he will be older too?
There is one thing that I never understand. If for example a 40 year old woman is dating a 25 year old guy, that's fine but then people go on to point out when he is 45 she will be 60 like that's really shocking. What is the big deal, they will both get older and the age gap hasn't widened.
Yes Dee - the age gap hasn't widened - but the hips on the 60 yr old woman has (I couldn't resist that one LOL) - but on a more serious note the gap is the same but at 40 a woman has not experienced aging or menopause - but at 60 she will be post menopausal and quite a bit older than 40 - whereas a man at 45 is still in his prime - Hotels in Cleveland
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Dee wrote:
But he will be older too?
There is one thing that I never understand. If for example a 40 year old woman is dating a 25 year old guy, that's fine but then people go on to point out when he is 45 she will be 60 like that's really shocking. What is the big deal, they will both get older and the age gap hasn't widened.
I think it's the idea that men will not find a much older woman attractive, even if he looks old, or not so hot himself. Many guys (esp. middle aged) rarely consider their own appearance when evaluating a woman's attractiveness, and what they want for themselves. They feel almost entitled to the best looking/youngest women they can get sometimes. Yet, plenty of men have married women their own age (20something) and later have lost interest in their wives, even just 10,15 yrs later, and separated. Sometimes the wives let go, but often the guy let go as well. Or sometimes the woman still looks great but the man just lost interest for other reasons, or vice versa. No relationship is completely fail proof, no matter the age. I just think if two people really love each other, looks shouldn't be a priority, esp long term. Of course that's not always true in reality, but we can still have hope. :)
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violeta wrote:Lazarelle, My point is that even though a woman is older, if she's still fit and active, she can engage in dancing. If she has a man in her life, great, if not, doesn't mean the woman is not enjoying her life. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkHvRCp3z5A Violeta: I don't know where you are taking this thread - I don't think I ever disagreed with the above - as I said before I have a friend who is 53 and looks 35 and is having a great time - so I am concurring with you - You have to agree though that this woman on youtube is the exception and not the rule - and the same goes to you Tallulah - the 80 year old woman who looks very well preserved and married to a 40 yr old is an exception - Sue: the glass is both half full and half empty - this is a variation on the Schrödinger's cat theory - (I'm being silly LOL) Hotels in Cleveland
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Larazelle wrote:
Yes Dee - the age gap hasn't widened - but the hips on the 60 yr old woman has (I couldn't resist that one LOL) - but on a more serious note the gap is the same but at 40 a woman has not experienced aging or menopause - but at 60 she will be post menopausal and quite a bit older than 40 - whereas a man at 45 is still in his prime -
I see where you are coming from, but in the UK there are a couple of older actresses I know of (well one sadly passed away last year) who both over 60 with guys much younger. The ageing of these women did/does not seem to prove an issue in either case.  Barbara Windsor (72) with husband Scott Mitchell (46)  The late Wendy Richards (65) with husband John Burns (45)
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violeta wrote:
I think it's the idea that men will not find a much older woman attractive, even if he looks old, or not so hot himself. Many guys (esp. middle aged) rarely consider their own appearance when evaluating a woman's attractiveness, and what they want for themselves. They feel almost entitled to the best looking/youngest women they can get sometimes. Yet, plenty of men have married women their own age (20something) and later have lost interest in their wives, even just 10,15 yrs later, and separated. Sometimes the wives let go, but often the guy let go as well. Or sometimes the woman still looks great but the man just lost interest for other reasons, or vice versa. No relationship is completely fail proof, no matter the age. I just think if two people really love each other, looks shouldn't be a priority, esp long term. Of course that's not always true in reality, but we can still have hope. :)
Men can be so delusional sometimes lol. I was watching a show in the UK called Come Dine with Me where 4 participants take turns to prepare a dinner party for the other guests. One lady, 63 was rather randy and started flirting with a guy, 41. He seemed to find it shocking some of the comments she was spewing out and later exclaimed (and I quote) 'she's old enough to be my grandmother'...WTF...now unless he overestimated her age by a good 20 years, did he forget he's 41 and not 21? lol And you are right, real true love nothing should come between....not age, looks, illness or any other obstacle.
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On this topic, I agree older men think they should be able to have younger women, but those same guys don't think older women should be able to have younger men....however, I think the tables are turning a bit, since more women are economically independent these days. So to some extent, an older woman who is financially secure on her own, and keeps her looks up, has more choice these days. Unfortunately I see a lot of older women financially supporting their boyfriends, husbands. This keeps their men with them and keeps them from chasing after younger girls (hopefully). I personally would rather be alone though than to feel I have to financially support some guy to keep him. But to some extent, isn't that why a lot of younger women gravitated towards older men in the past? For financial security?
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Larazelle wrote:
Sue: the glass is both half full and half empty - this is a variation on the Schrödinger's cat theory - (I'm being silly LOL)
Maybe its a variation of Schrödinger's "Wave Equation" but really much more closely related to Heisenberg's "Uncertainty Principal". This last one has so many meanings!!!!
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Bugjune wrote: You are not at peace within yourself. You are like a batch of peanut brittle just BOILING over the pot.
LOL!!! Cindy79, no harm meant with my earlier opportunistic jab. I was just poking fun at a situation where views are diametrically opposed. In reality I don't think you are even remotely "screwed". I think you are starting to get the vibe given off by yatterman, not a bad looking fellow at all, but hell bent on screwing himself. And yatterman, stating that men are generally more desperate and will settle for 400 lb women where women would not-there is absolutley no way this is true. If I take myself and several male friends as example, in fact it would be dead false. The reality is there is no general rule at all -- just strictly case by case! Men can be and are as picky as women!
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fixit wrote:
Maybe its a variation of Schrödinger's "Wave Equation" but really much more closely related to Heisenberg's "Uncertainty Principal". This last one has so many meanings!!!!
Hmm, I just thought it was an idiom. This post was supposed to be in response to Fixit's post to Larazelle, I do not know why it ended up here.
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Bugjune wrote:Yatts - I am not trying to *prick* your balloon here ... but you are still NOT gonna get the girl after all this cosmetic work.
Until and unless you can relax, be confident, open up and share some value with a gal, she is not gonna be your lifetime partner. Occasional date, maybe. And perhaps that's ok with you. Fine.
Why is it that you appear to be some kind of he-she bottled up inside of a body that you keep fighting? You are not at peace within yourself. You are like a batch of peanut brittle just BOILING over the pot.
Have you moved out of your parents' house yet? If not, do so. What are you waiting for?
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1) I am certain I will be able to get a girlfriend if all my procedures turn out well. 2) I'll get more than just a couple dates. Yeah there's a good chance my first relationships will be short lived as I have no first hand experience with relationships and I would probably be too clingy and needy for most girls taste. 3) I am not living with my parents at the moment.
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How is school going? Do you like it?
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DCNGA wrote:How is school going? Do you like it? I like what I am studying however I hate this place itself.
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