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Interesting article from the NYT: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/05/health/05patient.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rssQuote:Vitamins and minerals are commodity items, and every manufacturer has access to the same ingredients. For that reason, researchers and scientists say paying more for a name brand won’t necessarily buy you better vitamins.
“When we measure levels of vitamins in the blood, we find the levels are the same whether the person was taking a generic brand or a name brand,” says Dr. Rimm, who has been studying the effects of vitamins for 20 years.
That said, don’t be too cheap. Purchase your vitamins from well-known retailers that do a brisk business and restock frequently, whether that’s Costco or Drugstore.com. Vitamins lose their potency over time and must be stored at, or below, room temperature. If bottles are sitting on a shelf in warm room or in direct sunlight, they may degrade even before their expiration date.
PRICE MAY NOT MEAN QUALITY While the Food and Drug Administration regulates vitamins as part of the nutritional supplement industry, it does not test them before they are put on the shelves. The F.D.A. places the responsibility on the manufacturer to ensure that its dietary supplement products are safe before they are marketed. All of which means that no matter what the price, quality is not assured.
ConsumerLab.com, a company based in White Plains that tests hundreds of vitamins each year, finds that 30 percent of multivitamins have a quality problem: the pills might have more or less of a stated ingredient, or they might not dissolve properly.
“We haven’t found any brand with a broad product line that makes every product well,” says Dr. Tod Cooperman, president of the company.
Taking exception to such assertions is the vitamin industry’s trade group, the Council for Responsible Nutrition. In response to questions, the council released a statement from Andrew Shao, a vice president for scientific and regulatory affairs.
Mr. Shao said that the F.D.A. allowed for “a reasonable amount of variation” — which he characterized as up to 15 percent more of an ingredient than the label might indicate. Mr. Shao said that manufacturers frequently add slightly more of an ingredient to ensure that the amount is at least at the level claimed on the label as the product nears the end of its shelf life.
In any case, ConsumerLab.com says it has found a few patterns that consumers may find helpful. Products sold by vitamin chains tend to be more reliable than drugstore brands, and Wal-Mart and Costco’s vitamin lines are usually worth considering. In a recent test of multivitamins, ConsumerLab.com found that Equate-Mature Multivitamin 50+ sold by Wal-Mart was just as good as the name brand Centrum Silver, but at less than a nickel a day is half the price.
Puritan’s Pride, a catalog and online retailer, also has very good prices, and Dr. Cooperman says that its products are generally good.
Curious consumers can subscribe to ConsumerLab.com for $30 a year and learn how other supplement brands fare in the lab’s tests.
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I have to strongly disagree with this one. More expensive brands have nutrients in forms or chelates that are better absorbed and utilized. Professional products (such as what you would buy from a naturopathic doctor or some nutritionists) are guaranteed to contain what they say they have and are far more potent and reliable. Cheap brands are full of fillers, poorly absorbable nutrient forms (like calcium carbinate, for example) and are often out of an ideal balance. Shelf stable probiotics are usually dead when you buy them from mass market stores, and even if there are some live cells, they are not enough of them to really do anything. Oils and herbs are the absolute worst to buy retail, oils are usually rancid and cause significant harm, and herbs are not standardized and usually prepared in such a low quality way that they will be ineffective.
If you are going to self- supplement, stick to the basics- multi vitamin, probiotic, EFA's. Anything above that you really should consult a professional. You wouldn't prescibe and dose your own mediations, and nor should you prescibe your own nutriceuticals.
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I had a primary care doc several years ago at Emory (he left and moved west) who did a special for CNN where he went around and checked the St. John's Wort (it was big around that time as a natural anti-depressant) at the GNC stores all over ATL. He pulled several bottles from each one. He said none of them were consistent and would have much more or much less than the variance allowed, even individual pills in each bottle themselves. He said that year that the amount of St. John's Wort grown world wide and sold to make the pills was less than the total of all pills sold in the US, much less. He also told me he had a lady to die slowly because she was being treated for an auto-immune disease and failed to tell him she was using several different herbal remedies that were conflicting with her prescribed medication. After she passed away, her family found the herbal medicines and told him about them, it was too late of course. He said people with auto-immune disease (thyroid disease is considered one) must be very careful with taking herbs of any kind. He was trying to figure out why my thyroid medication was not regulating properly and asked if I was taking herbs of any kind. One more thing he mentioned was that the one place on earth he would recommend supplements was from Germany since they are highly regulated (just like the FDA does for prescriptions here)there. IPL & Laser Damage Facebook PageThe greatest way to live with honor in this world is to be what we pretend to be. ~Socrates~ (I pretend to be a cat with a lime carved as a helmet on my head) I'm no longer taking PMs. If you would like to reach me, feel free to email me: laserandiplsupport@gmail.com
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