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Well getting that cisco certification was a complete waste of time and doesnt qualify me for ANY jobs even REMOTELY close to IT. Ah well, minimum wage 4 life!!
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Did you get your CCNA? If you cannot find a job in NJ, you may need to relocate where the jobs are (granted, not many anywhere right now). BUT, it WAS NOT a WASTE of time. My husband just worked with a CCNA a few weeks ago who is billing out $200 per hour for contracting work. My son in law is about to take the course and transfer into IT where he will be making $25K more per year just because he gets his CCNA certification. My husband is looking into it as well since he is jeopardy of losing his job (merger at his company, jobs may not survive). You chose well, now it will just take time to find a job due to job scarcity and no direct experience. You can likely find a job in other areas, start out lower per hour (around $35 per hour) and then move up with more experience. There's a lot of competition out there for jobs now. You have to present well, prove you are better than the next person, have a good work ethic, be on time, keep your head down, be personable but not too social..familiarity breeds contempt. Most geeky people have a quirky personality, so maybe your quirkiness won't be held against you in the IT field. You cannot have a negative attitude, it will show through quicker than anything. Don't go into it defeated, go into job hunting as positive as you can because there will be rejection. You have to learn that and move on and keep positive.
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Read this: http://www.techexams.net/forums/jobs-degrees/48353-only-ccna-qualification.htmlTake some temp jobs to get experience. There is no replacement for hands on experience. Do what it takes to make it work, don't be a defeatist.
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DCNGA wrote:Did you get your CCNA? If you cannot find a job in NJ, you may need to relocate where the jobs are (granted, not many anywhere right now). BUT, it WAS NOT a WASTE of time. My husband just worked with a CCNA a few weeks ago who is billing out $200 per hour for contracting work. My son in law is about to take the course and transfer into IT where he will be making $25K more per year just because he gets his CCNA certification. My husband is looking into it as well since he is jeopardy of losing his job (merger at his company, jobs may not survive). You chose well, now it will just take time to find a job due to job scarcity and no direct experience. You can likely find a job in other areas, start out lower per hour (around $35 per hour) and then move up with more experience.
There's a lot of competition out there for jobs now. You have to present well, prove you are better than the next person, have a good work ethic, be on time, keep your head down, be personable but not too social..familiarity breeds contempt. Most geeky people have a quirky personality, so maybe your quirkiness won't be held against you in the IT field. You cannot have a negative attitude, it will show through quicker than anything. Don't go into it defeated, go into job hunting as positive as you can because there will be rejection. You have to learn that and move on and keep positive. What I learned is IT certifications are only remotely useful next to a degree, else they are a complete waste of time. I've been talking to this guy online who has CCNP (thats 1 higher than CCNA), A+, MCSE, and security+. Know what he does? He sells smoothies at the mall, minimum wage. And he lives in the NYC area. I'm just trying to get a minimum wage job at this point, no sense in fighting the inevitable. At least i'll still be able to save up for surgery.
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Defeatist attitude. We are what we think.
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DCNGA wrote:Defeatist attitude. We are what we think. Not defeatist, just realistic.
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And while I'm at it let me tell you that when my husband started out at his current company he went temp at 40 years old, sweeping floors!!!! He was a former musician with no degree who had not had a 'real' job in 20 years. He worked hard doing a nothing job. Then he was recognized for how hard he worked and his 'smarts'. He was promoted continually for 10 years until he was put in management. He makes DAMN good money now and even if he loses his current job in the merger (although he's been told if anyone gets to keep their job, it will be him), he will still be marketable. He taught himself everything, including IT stuff. He never had the Job Corp or ANYTHING handed to him free of charge!!!! Oh, did I mention he has a terminal illness? He gets up every day not knowing if today will be his last. He struggles to breathe with lung capacity at 42% and diabetes. So, don't give me your defeatist bullshit attitude at 25 or so years old. You have to want it and believe you can do it, despite adversity.
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The problem is every time I expect to do well (with anything) I only get met with extreme disappointment. Maybe the key in life is to have very low expectations and goals. I guess the Buddhists are right when they say that all suffering stems from unfulfilled desire.
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What does not kill you makes you stronger. Life is a jungle. Greatest revenge is living well. The list goes on. Disappointment is bitter. Sorry you have had to experience it. EVERYONE DOES. My husband was on the verge of landing a recording contract with Sony and making the 'big time' in a country band. He had been at music since he was 15. He was turning 40 that year and made the decision if he did not get a recording contract by 40, he would get a 'real job'. Well, obviously they did not get the contract. He did not let that define him or stop him. He still does his music but realized long ago that it would not put a roof over his head or take care of him in retirement. He adjusted, changed his life at 40 and continues on every day never knowing what that day will bring for him. So, you have to kiss a lot of frogs...blah, blah blah.... Attitude is EVERYTHING!!
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DC, your husband is an amazing guy, I hope he will get better soon, there is so much to learn from him, I hope Y can get what you are trying to tell him, Y has certain attitude, there is nothing can be improved unless he lose that attitude DCNGA wrote:And while I'm at it let me tell you that when my husband started out at his current company he went temp at 40 years old, sweeping floors!!!! He was a former musician with no degree who had not had a 'real' job in 20 years. He worked hard doing a nothing job. Then he was recognized for how hard he worked and his 'smarts'. He was promoted continually for 10 years until he was put in management. He makes DAMN good money now and even if he loses his current job in the merger (although he's been told if anyone gets to keep their job, it will be him), he will still be marketable. He taught himself everything, including IT stuff. He never had the Job Corp or ANYTHING handed to him free of charge!!!!
Oh, did I mention he has a terminal illness? He gets up every day not knowing if today will be his last. He struggles to breathe with lung capacity at 42% and diabetes. So, don't give me your defeatist bullshit attitude at 25 or so years old.
You have to want it and believe you can do it, despite adversity.
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Plus if you find a non profit and offer them the skills you want to develop, you can get practical experience that way and you can put it on your resume.
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Whatever you do. don't choose option2
my advice: at your age go travelling around the world, working in bars or whatever etc. it can be cheaper than you think
YOU WILL NEVER EVER REGRET IT!!
i prefer a burglar to the neighbour, one steals your things but the other steals your time
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trebor wrote: Whatever you do. don't choose option2
my advice: at your age go travelling around the world, working in bars or whatever etc. it can be cheaper than you think
YOU WILL NEVER EVER REGRET IT!!
I really don't have the money to that that. Besides, travelling around the world does not interest me in the slightest anymore. It used to when I was young, but I dont really care to travel anymore than I absolutely have to now.
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When you were 'young'(?) You're still in your early twenties and you're talking like an OLD MAN. What is up with that?
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stache wrote:When you were 'young'(?) You're still in your early twenties and you're talking like an OLD MAN. What is up with that? I don't really know if 23 is "young" anymore. Young is like, high school to college (undergrad) aged.
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Of course 23 is young. You show how young you are by saying that! It's young adult, instead of teenager, that's all.
Don't waste your youth whingeing.
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I'm locking this thread. Social/Psych does not = pity party.
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