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MissJ
Posted: Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:01:13 PM
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Well, here's the thing:

The dolomite is Calcium carbonate and Magnesium carbonate (and it's inexpensive). Ok, so I need to order some Calcium and Magnesium from Puritan's Pride but I can't find a good combo.
Like I was thinking of getting the Calcium Citrate and a separate Vitamin D. But when I looked to see what kind of Magnesium they had, it was mostly Magnesium OXIDE. So, if I get the separate Calcium Citrate, there are not many options for the Magnesium part.

There Cal-Mag combos have Calcium Carbonate and Citrate and Mangesium Carbonate and Oxide.
OK, so IF I get the Calcium Citrate separately, WHAT KIND OF MAGNESIUM is better bio absorbable if I'm not to take the dolomite with Mag carbonate or not to take the Magnesium Oxide.

I was going to order Magnesium oxide to go with the Calcium Citrate BUT they say the Mag oxide is hard to absorb or neutralizes Stomach acid. Thing is the company's Magnesium Chelates only come in like 30 mg dosages and one needs 500mg magnesium along with 1000 Calcium--yes???




barbiegirl wrote:


No eating like a seagull Miss J! They're as bad as rats out here.

For most people I recommend a liquid calcium citrate, magnesium and vitamin D supplement. calcium carbonate is ok if you have the stomach acidity necessary to ionize and absorb it and actually has more elemental calcium, unfortunately many people don't, so calcium citrate is better for them. A 2:1 ratio of calcium to magnesium is ok for most, but some people (especially if they find calcium supplements constipating or have muscle or menstrual cramps or pms) benefit from a 1:1 ratio.

I am not a fan of dolomite powder because of heavy metal (lead and mercury, mainly) and other environmental poison contamination.


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MissJ
Posted: Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:06:08 PM
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Now, if I keep taking the dolomite, do you think that drinking Chlorophyll liquid will help carry out heavy metals--that or mustard greens?

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MissJ
Posted: Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:15:23 PM
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Thing is with all the Calcium carbonates, that's in dolomite and that guy Anthony Robbin's the life coach says not to eat calcium carbonate because it's same stuff as plaster of paris.

I'm trying to eat better but it takes a boat load of time in cooking and shopping. The problem with the hands/arm and tooth scared the crap out of me. So, now I have to spend like 3 hours/day preparing foods and dozens of different vitamin/mineral supplements and grinding them down into a drink and then go to gym to try to rev up circulation, take a boat load of niacin and sit in the sauna afterwards hoping to dislodge toxins or cholesterol deposits from arteries which takes another 2 hours. I need to get more efficient in doing that stuff.




rm1961 wrote:


I am also interested in this. I use the CVS brand that has Vitamin D in it, just checked the label and it's Calcium Carbonate. Hmmm...


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barbiegirl
Posted: Sunday, February 28, 2010 11:08:37 PM
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MissJ wrote:
Well, here's the thing:

The dolomite is Calcium carbonate and Magnesium carbonate (and it's inexpensive). Ok, so I need to order some Calcium and Magnesium from Puritan's Pride but I can't find a good combo.
Like I was thinking of getting the Calcium Citrate and a separate Vitamin D. But when I looked to see what kind of Magnesium they had, it was mostly Magnesium OXIDE. So, if I get the separate Calcium Citrate, there are not many options for the Magnesium part.

There Cal-Mag combos have Calcium Carbonate and Citrate and Mangesium Carbonate and Oxide.
OK, so IF I get the Calcium Citrate separately, WHAT KIND OF MAGNESIUM is better bio absorbable if I'm not to take the dolomite with Mag carbonate or not to take the Magnesium Oxide.

I was going to order Magnesium oxide to go with the Calcium Citrate BUT they say the Mag oxide is hard to absorb or neutralizes Stomach acid. Thing is the company's Magnesium Chelates only come in like 30 mg dosages and one needs 500mg magnesium along with 1000 Calcium--yes???


If you are going to do either magnesium oxide or carbonate I would go with the carbonate. Magnesium citrate is great too, but can have laxative effects if taken in high enough doses or in sensitive individuals. Magnesium that has been chelated typically is absorbed best, so look out for magesium malate or glycinate. Generally speaking, you are correct (although you might need 1200mg of Ca/day, I am not positive of your exact age), there ideally is a 2:1 ratio Ca:Mg.

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barbiegirl
Posted: Sunday, February 28, 2010 11:09:51 PM
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MissJ wrote:
Now, if I keep taking the dolomite, do you think that drinking Chlorophyll liquid will help carry out heavy metals--that or mustard greens?


I don't think it would be enough... Have you been tested for heavy metals? Usually your best heavy metal chelators are IV DMPS or EDTA or oral DMAE.

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barbiegirl
Posted: Sunday, February 28, 2010 11:11:43 PM
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MissJ wrote:
Thing is with all the Calcium carbonates, that's in dolomite and that guy Anthony Robbin's the life coach says not to eat calcium carbonate because it's same stuff as plaster of paris.

I'm trying to eat better but it takes a boat load of time in cooking and shopping. The problem with the hands/arm and tooth scared the crap out of me. So, now I have to spend like 3 hours/day preparing foods and dozens of different vitamin/mineral supplements and grinding them down into a drink and then go to gym to try to rev up circulation, take a boat load of niacin and sit in the sauna afterwards hoping to dislodge toxins or cholesterol deposits from arteries which takes another 2 hours. I need to get more efficient in doing that stuff.






Just pick up great, fresh and natural food and prepare it simply. There is no reason why you should have to spend hours a day cooking and preparing meals. Do you really need to be taking dozens of supplements, or is there a way that you could meet your supplementation needs more efficiently?

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m130
Posted: Sunday, February 28, 2010 11:14:59 PM
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Seagulls are total flying rats. Same with pigeons.

I have really enjoyed this topic; I found the product at the bottom of this page at the local Pharmaca store:
http://www.integrativeinc.com/Products/Musculoskeletal/Bone.aspx
the Cal/Mag 2:1 mint drink.

It is 1 tbsp = 100IU Vit D - ergocalciferol; 600 mg calcium carbonate; 300 mg magnesium oxide.

Which sounds bad based on what you all are saying. They list a "bio available" form on that same page (Cal-Mag-K Chela-Max). This one I got was about $22 IIRC for about a month's worth.

For some reason, the taste reminds me of cleaned hotel rooms. It's not unpleasant, just strange.
m130
Posted: Sunday, March 21, 2010 9:25:06 PM
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So, if you would like to share, what Cal Mag did you all settle on? I just tried a Kal liquid one which is much thicker (it is like liquid yogurt) than the Integrative Inc. mint one, which makes it harder to take.

The label says for a 1 tablespoon dose:

Vit D (cholecalciferol) 300 IU

Calcium (calcium phosphate, calcium citrate, calcium gluconate, calcium lactate) 600mg [it doesn't say how much of each of these is in there]

Phosphorus (calcium phosphate) 300 mg

Magnesium (magnesium oxide, magnesium carbonate) 300 mg
barbiegirl
Posted: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 11:47:55 PM
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m130 wrote:
So, if you would like to share, what Cal Mag did you all settle on? I just tried a Kal liquid one which is much thicker (it is like liquid yogurt) than the Integrative Inc. mint one, which makes it harder to take.

The label says for a 1 tablespoon dose:

Vit D (cholecalciferol) 300 IU

Calcium (calcium phosphate, calcium citrate, calcium gluconate, calcium lactate) 600mg [it doesn't say how much of each of these is in there]

Phosphorus (calcium phosphate) 300 mg

Magnesium (magnesium oxide, magnesium carbonate) 300 mg


It doesn't sound bad, although the vast majority of people get too much phosphorus and do not need to supplement.

"My friends, love is better than anger.
Hope is better than fear.
Optimism is better than despair.
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MissJ
Posted: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:06:25 AM
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Calcium magnesium citrate and the rest is in an unopened box.


m130 wrote:
So, if you would like to share, what Cal Mag did you all settle on? I just tried a Kal liquid one which is much thicker (it is like liquid yogurt) than the Integrative Inc. mint one, which makes it harder to take.

The label says for a 1 tablespoon dose:

Vit D (cholecalciferol) 300 IU

Calcium (calcium phosphate, calcium citrate, calcium gluconate, calcium lactate) 600mg [it doesn't say how much of each of these is in there]

Phosphorus (calcium phosphate) 300 mg

Magnesium (magnesium oxide, magnesium carbonate) 300 mg


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