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DCNGA
Posted: Friday, August 13, 2010 7:35:16 AM
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Barbie, you've been oh so right about high fructose corn syrup. Out of UCLA Cancer Research Center:

http://www.cancer.ucla.edu/Index.aspx?page=644&recordid=385&returnURL=%2findex.aspx

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Pancreatic cancers use the sugar fructose, very common in the Western diet, to activate a key cellular pathway that drives cell division, helping the cancer to grow more quickly, a study by researchers at UCLA’s Jonsson Comprehensive Cancer Center has found.
lindahr
Posted: Friday, August 13, 2010 11:15:31 AM
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Is Honey high in fructose?
what about cookies? what kind of sugar should we eat then?
barbiegirl
Posted: Sunday, August 15, 2010 9:35:02 AM
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Good find D! Yep, I have been saying how toxic HFCS is for years and I get so irate when I see those "HFCS is ok in moderation" commercials by the Corn Producers. I have written them many times but they have yet to have the balls to reply to me.

Honey is high in fructose, but not as high as HFCS. Fructose in and of itself as part of a whole, natural food (such as fruit) isn't bad and actually does digest a little bit slower than glucose or sucrose. HFCS is just so unnatural, concentrated and refined and causes all kinds of havok in the body. Cookies (and all sweets in general) are something to eat in small amounts in moderation, not on a regular basis. Agave or stevia are good natural sweetener substitutes.

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m130
Posted: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:44:18 AM
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I saw a TV commercial the last couple of nights where some lady is walking through a corn field talking about how our bodies see HFCS the same as sugar and it made my jaw drop.
CassVersion2.0
Posted: Monday, September 13, 2010 8:11:53 AM
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Our eyes and appetites might see HFCS the same as sugar, but our bodies do not. It has a different molecular structure, and the body metabolizes it differently. The body must break down sugar. With HFCS, that step is already done in the manufacturing process, so our body does not need to expend any additional energy to break it down. In short, HFCS can make us fatter than the same # of calories from sugar. More here: http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S26/91/22K07/index.xml?section=topstories
A sweet problem: Princeton researchers find that high-fructose corn syrup prompts considerably more weight gain

I wonder if that cornfield was GMO (genetically modified) corn? That is another subject that makes me cringe. Note to Food Industry: Stop f'n with my food!
barbiegirl
Posted: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:59:53 AM
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CassVersion2.0 wrote:
Our eyes and appetites might see HFCS the same as sugar, but our bodies do not. It has a different molecular structure, and the body metabolizes it differently. The body must break down sugar. With HFCS, that step is already done in the manufacturing process, so our body does not need to expend any additional energy to break it down. In short, HFCS can make us fatter than the same # of calories from sugar. More here: http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S26/91/22K07/index.xml?section=topstories
A sweet problem: Princeton researchers find that high-fructose corn syrup prompts considerably more weight gain

I wonder if that cornfield was GMO (genetically modified) corn? That is another subject that makes me cringe. Note to Food Industry: Stop f'n with my food!


Almost all corn in North America is genetically modified (same with things like canola, soy, tomatoes, wheat etc). Imagine what would happen if another Starlink corn-type of disaster ended up into the mass consumed HFCS products? Very scary to consider.

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DCNGA
Posted: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 7:41:02 AM
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The HFCS manufacturers have asked the FDA to allow them to rename HFCS to 'corn sugars'. They feel they've been given a bad rep by the connotation of the name high fructose corn syrup because it is only 50% fructose and is 'essentially' the same thing as sucrose (sugar). WTFever. Propaganda so they can continue to pollute our foods. I'm betting the FDA allows it to happen.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/14/corn-sugar-high-fructose-corn-syrup_n_716007.html
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Posted: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 9:00:30 AM
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Obama's new food safety czar is Michael Taylor, former VP of Monsanto and chief lobbyist for Monsanto, the GMO industry leader. When he was with the FDA in the 90's, he oversaw FDA approval of Monsanto's bovine growth hormone and said milk did not need to labeled saying it contained growth hormone.
DCNGA
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Don't even get me started on this guy and the FDA. I can rant for days about it all.

UGH!!!!
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My husband use to drink big gulp diet sodas every day,he now has advanced cancer.
Although soda has not as of yet been linked to his type of cancer I suspect it contributed!!
DCNGA
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I'm very sorry to hear about your husband, Mich.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 9:19:04 PM
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CassVersion2.0 wrote:
Obama's new food safety czar is Michael Taylor, former VP of Monsanto and chief lobbyist for Monsanto, the GMO industry leader. When he was with the FDA in the 90's, he oversaw FDA approval of Monsanto's bovine growth hormone and said milk did not need to labeled saying it contained growth hormone.


Did you know Monsanto is fighting tooth and nail to prevent farmer's who don't use rBGH from labelling their product "rBGH free"? The FDA is a joke- it is a political mess of big food and big pharma combined with those who determine what is "safe" for us to eat (read that as the most profitable decisions for said companies) and what they want the general public to know.

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DCNGA
Posted: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 9:24:41 PM
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The FDA is a political quagmire of corruption, besides being a joke.
CassVersion2.0
Posted: Thursday, September 16, 2010 7:42:54 AM
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barbiegirl wrote:


Did you know Monsanto is fighting tooth and nail to prevent farmer's who don't use rBGH from labelling their product "rBGH free"? The FDA is a joke- it is a political mess of big food and big pharma combined with those who determine what is "safe" for us to eat (read that as the most profitable decisions for said companies) and what they want the general public to know.


I think it ended up that if farmers want to label their milk as rBGH free, they also had to include a disclaimer saying something like 'According to the FDA, there is no difference between the milk of hormone-treated and untreated cows'. (cough cough cough) Even so, Monsanto sued these farmers, saying they were misleading consumers into thinking untreated milk was better. Many farmers didn't want to use rBGH because it shortened their cows' life spans. Apparently consumer backlash had some effect, since Monsanto sold it's rBGH business to Eli Lily. Not a big surprise there. Big Pharma and Big Food working together to make us and keep us SICK (and dependant on Big Government).
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Posted: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:33:07 PM
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CassVersion2.0 wrote:


I think it ended up that if farmers want to label their milk as rBGH free, they also had to include a disclaimer saying something like 'According to the FDA, there is no difference between the milk of hormone-treated and untreated cows'. (cough cough cough) Even so, Monsanto sued these farmers, saying they were misleading consumers into thinking untreated milk was better. Many farmers didn't want to use rBGH because it shortened their cows' life spans. Apparently consumer backlash had some effect, since Monsanto sold it's rBGH business to Eli Lily. Not a big surprise there. Big Pharma and Big Food working together to make us and keep us SICK (and dependant on Big Government).


I didn't realize that Monsanto had sold Posilac to Eli Lily. They must know that it's remaining days of use are numbered. The US is one of the few countries in the world that still uses it or even allows animals treated with it into the food supply. A complete global ban of rBGH and other GM "foods" can't come soon enough.

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Talullah
Posted: Thursday, September 16, 2010 10:01:30 PM
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Ugh! Don't even get me started about Monsanto. Even the name sounds like pure evil. This is why we have decided that all of our meats, fruits and vegetables must be organic now. Also, I refuse to buy Campbell's soups anymore...do you know that their soup contains HFCS? I can't get over it....SOUP with HfCS. It's like they're so transparent about wanting to kill us all if they are even putting that junk in soup. Still working on the snack foods though. Unfortunately the processed organic/natural food like cookies, crackers, etc. just aren't very tasty.
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Posted: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:18:09 AM
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I just googled to see how much HFCS is in NZ foods, and fortunatly we use cane sugar rather than the HFCS.

The article also mentioned that HFCS is widenly used as a sweetener in the US, because of cane-sugar import tariffs - crazy!!
DCNGA
Posted: Friday, September 17, 2010 6:00:17 AM
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One of our largest sugar refineries in Savannah, GA blew up a few years ago, so I don't know if they are producing as much. Sugar beet growers now produce nearly as much sugar as cane growers. Farmers here are almost a thing of the past, unless a conglomerate and then we are at their mercy. They are going to control what is grown and sold based on what is best for THEIR bottom line and that means we are going to get what is cheap to grow and produce, not what is best for us. So, the prices climb for the organic foods because they are not grown in the same quantity as the foods grown by huge conglomerates or growing them is not as profitable for farming conglomerates.

Next year, I'm having my own garden. I'm going to go back to canning/freezing.
barbiegirl
Posted: Monday, September 20, 2010 5:40:33 PM
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DCNGA wrote:


Next year, I'm having my own garden. I'm going to go back to canning/freezing.


Just be careful of the source of your seeds- look for local heirloom seeds at local health food stores and farmer's markets. Unfortunately Monsanto owns most seeds and genetically modifies them all for a patent.

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DCNGA
Posted: Monday, September 20, 2010 8:14:58 PM
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Where I grew up as a teenager is where there was both a huge Monsanto plant and Park Seed company. I need to see if Park does genetically altered seeds. Last I checked they were still owned by the Park family.
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