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aphrodite
Posted: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 7:40:21 PM
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I never ever go in the sun I've been a fanatic since the age of 14. I was a goth lol. My skin can tan but i do self tanning instead. My question is I wonder if this is the reason I've had problems with acne all my life. I now have eczema which i never had before. I know eczema is treated with uv light. I wonder if people who shun the sun do more arm than good ? I do go out for like a half hour at 9 am sans SPF just to get a drop of vitamin d. I'm wondering if this eczema is due to lack of uv almost all my life ?
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Posted: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 8:36:13 PM
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I do know that everyone I know who took the blood test for vitamin D was too low. Most people don't get enough sun to make an adequate amount of it. I wouldn't worry about the sun as much as I would about getting my D levels checked and taking the right dosage to supplement.
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Posted: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 8:52:33 PM
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I never ever go in the sun I've been a fanatic since the age of 14. I was a goth lol. My skin can tan but i do self tanning instead. My question is I wonder if this is the reason I've had problems with acne all my life. I now have eczema which i never had before. I know eczema is treated with uv light. I wonder if people who shun the sun do more arm than good ? I do go out for like a half hour at 9 am sans SPF just to get a drop of vitamin d. I'm wondering if this eczema is due to lack of uv almost all my life ?


I think some sunshine is definition good for you, not just for producing vitamin D but for also general well being for certain skin disorders such as eczema. I've been a serial sunbather in the past then doing a complete 180 to the opposite extreme; locking myself in a dark room most of the day, terrified of any little slither of sunlight coming through the window, mostly going out at night to avoid sun light! Now I realise that moderation is key. Get a little sunshine, don't tan, wear sunblock and you can't go wrong : )

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Posted: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 12:07:51 AM
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I have this problem with sun avoidance and skin conditions. It's like I can't win. I try and avoid it because i'm prone to acne rosacea. I bought some Vitamin D tabs and am hoping they'll do something or other.

Dee, what made you stop going in the sun so suddenly? I did a 180 around age 19 and a terrible sunburn. It took 2 years of IPLs over my body and whatnot to get rid of the splotchyness fully.
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Posted: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 12:09:40 AM
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Was going to add this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2028937/Why-sun-cream-fragile-bones.html

I read it a while ago. So apparently yes, it can...
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Posted: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 9:24:27 AM
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Quno wrote:


Dee, what made you stop going in the sun so suddenly? I did a 180 around age 19 and a terrible sunburn. It took 2 years of IPLs over my body and whatnot to get rid of the splotchyness fully.


Because I looked in the mirror age just 17 and saw lines around my eyes and mouth! Went into panic mode with the sun avoidance and that phase lasted nearly 10 years lol. Now at age 31, I'm a little more relaxed about things.

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Posted: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:19:27 PM
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Gwyneth Paltrow fractured her tibial plateau a few years ago and found out she had osteopenia. Her MD told her to get some sun:

http://goop.com/newsletter/88/en
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Posted: Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:13:19 PM
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Don't know about the eczema, but it's possible that you're Vitamin D deficient. The easiest way to know is to get tested.
https://www.accesalabs.com/vitamin

I think a normal range is 60-70 ng/ml, though this varies a bit depending on which expert you talk to. If you're deficient you can take 5,000-10,000 units of D3/day until you come up to a normal level. Re-test periodically to make sure you're in the right range.
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Posted: Sunday, December 25, 2011 9:39:02 AM
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I was saying damage I guess meaning more for vanity like skin thinning or possibly some one said it would age your skin more. Fortunately " knock on wood". I dont have an issue with vit d deficiency, I am a big milk drinker though. I worked with a sun worshipped pnce who said that not going in. The sun made the skin atrophy I thought about this as they say if you don't use it you lose it like muscles atrophy. On the other hand her skin was pretty bad though lol tons of sun spots she constantly told me I needed a tan.
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Everything in moderation...that includes sun. :-)
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eczema is an autoimmune disease, and I know several people who have had it and it had no relation to their sun exposure.

If your hormones are out of whack that is a highly likely cause.

people also develop allergies, autoimmunie disorders as they grow older. they can come and go. They are often seasonal, or exacerbated seasonally (by cold and/or dry weather)

the treatment with UV is as old as the hills, and IMO a fallback when a doctor doesn't really know what to do.

There are lots of different topicals. You should be trying them to see what works for you.

More important is understanding your triggers, and working on your internal health. Triggers are physical, psychological or nutritional that make outbreaks worse - e.g. cold, soap, newsprint, stress, alcohol, etc. if you google you will find a list of candidates. Clean up your lifestyle of these triggers and see what happens.

Internally it's really important that you get lots of essential fatty acids - Omegas. A friend of mine takes omega supplements and when he's had to stop (for pre-op, for example) his E has flared up dramatically.

You can't eliminate it but you can manage it.
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Location: i just turned over a new leaf to reveal the same t
high quality evening primrose oil in capsule form is great for eczema.


some find taking most grains (gluten), sugars help.


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Posted: Friday, December 30, 2011 8:19:45 AM
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Thanks Chris K will try it, been doing fish oil but not as much do to bad press its been getting. Thanks Robin definately flaring up that time of the month so its hormone related.
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Posted: Saturday, December 31, 2011 9:11:35 AM
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Wow, age 17 and saw wrinkles, Dee? I'm jealous. Or perhaps fortunate in that I certainly did not worry about aging when I was 17. Although I wasn't a sun person until my late twenties when I started swimming, then I had a tan every summer until early 40's. When I look at old photos, I am amazed at how tanned I was and how could I not know that it was a bad idea? I have heard that obese people can have a distorted view of how large they are and are unable to see this in the mirror and wonder if it was the same kind of thing. Today, of course, I regret every minute of it even though at the time, I was having fun.
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Wow, age 17 and saw wrinkles, Dee? I'm jealous. Or perhaps fortunate in that I certainly did not worry about aging when I was 17. Although I wasn't a sun person until my late twenties when I started swimming, then I had a tan every summer until early 40's. When I look at old photos, I am amazed at how tanned I was and how could I not know that it was a bad idea? I have heard that obese people can have a distorted view of how large they are and are unable to see this in the mirror and wonder if it was the same kind of thing. Today, of course, I regret every minute of it even though at the time, I was having fun.


Jealous? lol

At 16 years of age I loved having an all year round tan, especially living in Britain where the weather sucks. I never thought it was a bad idea either and was quite prepared to use tanning beds for the rest of my life if it meant maintaining my bronze (orange) glowing compexion lol.

Even after reading an article in a national newspaper about the damage sunbeds can do to your skin showing pictures of women with premature skin ageing, I just thought to myself, well that's not going to happen to me and carried on tanning.

But after about 9 months of tanning almost every other day, my skin turned blotchy and looked rough. This still didn't deter me, but after another 3 months and looking worse by the day, then the horror of seeing my first wrinkle at the tend age of 17, enough was enough.

I starting applying spf 60 sunblock every day, using my mum's moisturizer, even bought some otc retinol cream. Then by age 18, I'd discovered all the good stuff, i.e. tretinoin, peels, etc and went ahead full steam with an aggressive skin care regime in an attempt to fix the damage.

And I'm Glad I did because at age 31 my skin is not any more wrinkled than at 17! But then again most people don't have to worry about wrinkles at 17 in the first place LOL.

And they have even coined a term for an addiction to tanning.......TANOREXIA...no kidding!

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Posted: Sunday, January 01, 2012 2:13:53 AM
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Sorry for being unclear, what I meant by "jealous" was, that at 17 you saw "wrinkles" and it led you to stop tanning. Kudos to you for getting the message at a very young age.
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