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I feel a lot of unattractive guys over value themselves, because they see how the opposite sex acts towards good looking guys and tries to mimicks their actions and interpret any situation the same way. They don't realize that the other guys are good looking and it's apples and oranges. It's also probably because they're so lonely and desperate that they scrape for any type of female attention or interest when it's not there. I know plenty of unattractive guys (in the past I have also been guilty of this) who will interpret something as basic (I'm not kidding) as a woman saying bless you after you sneeze as a sign "she's interested in you". My best friend is very attractive. He used to literally insult girls right to their face. They would just laugh and say "that's so funny" .Before I realized I was ugly, I copied him and acted similar. Let's just say I didnt get the same response.
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So Earl and Y, you guys have gotten PS to increase your attractiveness have how women reacted towards you changed at all?
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HNot much different. Sadly the more ps u get u realize it really doesn't. Make you look that different or better. Its weird u can get rid of you deficiencies but still look exactly the same.
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I found that after PS I got asked out by better looking men. But my ability to hold onto a relationship was still affected adversely by my insecurities. It's all a combination of looks AND attitude/personality.
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Yes. The dynamics remain the same, even as you move up the food chain.
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Yes and is sure is A LOT easier to change your looks than to change your personality.....
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Not to mention everyone else's personality - lol.
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adas1 wrote:So Earl and Y, you guys have gotten PS to increase your attractiveness have how women reacted towards you changed at all? Well so far all I got was a rhinoplasty. But I have a long list of aesthetic flaws, many of which are severe. Also aging has wiped away any net gain I got from my rhinoplasty. So no change.
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yatterman1 wrote:
Well so far all I got was a rhinoplasty. But I have a long list of aesthetic flaws, many of which are severe. Also aging has wiped away any net gain I got from my rhinoplasty.
So no change.
Y. you sound like your biggest problem is lack of seratonin. But I know you are stuck with your issues and they are real to you plus anything I say will count for zero. I hope you get to be in a good place soon in every way.
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Sue wrote:So we should all believe this because a 199 college students in Houston *proved* it. We have a world population of around 7 billion. How do you explain that? There has to be some ugly guys out there having sex somewhere lol I know lots of ugly guys, overweight guys who are super funny, charismatic and confident and they seem to do very well with women. I'm not trying to negate the study--I'm sure there's a lot of validity to it. I mean we're all visual beings, men and women. And the good looking ones have a leg up---- but confidence, personality, humor -- I've seen these go a long way.
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NancyS wrote:I found that after PS I got asked out by better looking men. But my ability to hold onto a relationship was still affected adversely by my insecurities. It's all a combination of looks AND attitude/personality. YES. If we don't have something that shines from the inside out (forgive the new agey metaphor) then just looking good on the surface will only take us so far. I dated a GORGEOUS woman this past summer who was probably the most insulting, combative person I've ever met. The relationship is done and I have no desire to be with her anymore. She's in her 30s, wants a man forever, and can't fathom why her relationships never work out, so she doesn't trust men. After two months I was trying to get us into couples therapy. She thought it was bullshit. (I have flaws too of course :)
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james_wylie wrote:
I know lots of ugly guys, overweight guys who are super funny, charismatic and confident and they seem to do very well with women. I'm not trying to negate the study--I'm sure there's a lot of validity to it. I mean we're all visual beings, men and women. And the good looking ones have a leg up---- but confidence, personality, humor -- I've seen these go a long way.
So true! A pretty face or a hot body doesn't go far when they aren't interesting, funny, confident etc. Which I guess is fine if your just want a one night thing but if you want an actual relationship just looking good on the surface is not nearly enough.
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sometimes it doesn't even work for the one night. i keep trying though:)
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pauluk wrote:sometimes it doesn't even work for the one night. i keep trying though:) Pfft Paul :P You're adorable, sweet and funny.
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that is a lovely post. thank you
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i just got a book that kind of relates to this topic, it talks about how attractive/goodlooking people are more successful, and how attractive/beautiful people have more advantages over non-attractive people in all aspects of life.
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kk25 wrote:i just got a book that kind of relates to this topic, it talks about how attractive/goodlooking people are more successful, and how attractive/beautiful people have more advantages over non-attractive people in all aspects of life.
What book is that? I studied under a psych professor who wrote "The Evolution of Desire" - a pretty good read, too. Recommended.
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yatterman1 wrote:
Well so far all I got was a rhinoplasty. But I have a long list of aesthetic flaws, many of which are severe. Also aging has wiped away any net gain I got from my rhinoplasty.
So no change.
How old are you Yatterman?
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rust1975 wrote:
What book is that? I studied under a psych professor who wrote "The Evolution of Desire" - a pretty good read, too. Recommended.
Rust that is awesome ( i am going to add your book to read list.) the book i mentioned earlier is called "Beauty Pays" by Daniel S. Hammermesh, (doesn't have good reviews on amazon, Guy who wrote the book is just an economist)
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