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violeta
Posted: Saturday, December 03, 2011 3:38:04 PM
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This is one study that shows taking Glucosamine can possibly help increase hyaluronic acid in joints. I wonder if it would also increase it all over body, and skin?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18786270
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I've always thought it could so I've been taking it for years. Don't know if it's done much though. I certainly have joint problems.
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Posted: Saturday, December 03, 2011 3:50:55 PM
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MissJ wrote:
I've always thought it could so I've been taking it for years. Don't know if it's done much though. I certainly have joint problems.


I think I should start, since I have arthritis in my family history.
I don't think it's supposed to stop all joint problems, but maybe if you hadn't taken it, you would have more problems. I'm thinking it has to help somewhat, or can't hurt to take.If it can increase hyaluronic acid in the skin, even better. We can hope.
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MissJ wrote:
I've always thought it could so I've been taking it for years. Don't know if it's done much though. I certainly have joint problems.


How is your hip now MissJ? Still painful?
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I've always thought it could so I've been taking it for years. Don't know if it's done much though. I certainly have joint problems.

I think it has MissJ, you have very beautiful skin.
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Posted: Saturday, December 03, 2011 6:19:45 PM
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Well, it's OK when I put a lot of make up on it like it's smooth but there is a lot of discoloration to it.
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Hi Sarah,

Well it's a thing where I get a 'surprise attack' where it pinches me and causes pain. It's not a constant pain but can happen when walking or turning. The labrum is damaged; chewed up by the shape of the hip joint impinging on it.

The ironic thing is that what I have (labral tears) is not really common as an 'old age' thing. Instead, it's common in young athletes as an acute injury.


Sarah W wrote:


How is your hip now MissJ? Still painful?
Mike D
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Are there any good treatment modalities other than surgery for this condition?

MissJ wrote:
The ironic thing is that what I have (labral tears) is not really common as an 'old age' thing. Instead, it's common in young athletes as an acute injury.
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Hi Sarah,

Well it's a thing where I get a 'surprise attack' where it pinches me and causes pain. It's not a constant pain but can happen when walking or turning. The labrum is damaged; chewed up by the shape of the hip joint impinging on it.

The ironic thing is that what I have (labral tears) is not really common as an 'old age' thing. Instead, it's common in young athletes as an acute injury.




Maybe in your case it IS an acute injury and may repair itself? Here's hoping.
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it amazing what reducing stress does for healing and chronic body issues. most ppl aren't willing to eliminate stress or re-organize what their brain perceives as stress.


stress is the main reason for illness.


and if you are stressed, you most likely aren't getting your delta sleep which is the sleep cycle where most of the physical healing of body takes place.
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violeta wrote:
This is one study that shows taking Glucosamine can possibly help increase hyaluronic acid in joints. I wonder if it would also increase it all over body, and skin?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18786270


It was a petri dish study. It doesn't translate to oral use in humans, especially not with the GI-tracts of animals. The real question that nobody has answered yet is this--is it possible that we can eat that long-chain molecule and not break it down into tiny amino acid and sugar components like we do with our other foods? Most researchers are pretty skeptical.

But that doesn't stop people from marketing it, selling it, and making a fortune. Hope springs eternal.

Some have theorized another approach--it might be better to eat foods that contain lots of hyaluronic acid components--sticky plant foods. Like sweet potatoes, apples, etc. I have some hope for that. Although there's no proof there, either, it seems a little less unrealistic to me.
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Thanks Kosmeds. I thought it might be some sort of scam especially if there is not much solid research behind it. I'll save my money
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Physical therapy but that takes like 2 hours/day to do all the things which are a series of exercises, breathing, meditation etc which I find that IF I don't do them, I can't walk a block without the hip bothering me. It does not bother me when I swim . But any standing rotation which is normally needed to stabilize a transition of weight like when you are turning and put weight on one foot to do that--that's when it catches and 'bites' me. Feels like a groin pull that comes on by surprise.

I think one of the protocols is a cortisone shot. Other is surgery where they might repair the labrum or take off the shredded parts AND burr down the part of the bone of the femor that impinges on labrum.

Insurance won't pay for alternative modalities like 'prolotherapy' and chiropractic. Out of pocket for that stuff would most likely drain my savings earmarked for PS.

I've got to be more disciplined to do the phys therapy series of things with the yoga and meditation series of things.

From what I've been reading about Femoral Acetabular Impingement (FAI), it's something that has to do with the morphology of the hip joint area where the femoral head has a convexity to it where it should have a concave area (cam) and the acetabular roof has a piece sticking out of it (pincer) where those two excess structures 'jam' at the labrum and impinge on it which eventually tears it up.


Mike D wrote:
Are there any good treatment modalities other than surgery for this condition?

MissJ
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Correct. Stress is the main reason for illness. But then again there is also mechanical stress like the stuff athletes get during aging which is often joint problems.


Chris K wrote:
it amazing what reducing stress does for healing and chronic body issues. most ppl aren't willing to eliminate stress or re-organize what their brain perceives as stress.


stress is the main reason for illness.


and if you are stressed, you most likely aren't getting your delta sleep which is the sleep cycle where most of the physical healing of body takes place.
Mike D
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I used cortisone shots for a shoulder that I injured lifting weights. It worked miraculously well, but I only had to use them temporarily. It sounds like it might be a long term thing for you, but maybe worth considering. Sorry that you are having to go through all of this.
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Miss J, have you tried being evaluated at an Egoscue clinic? From the Egoscue website:
"The Egoscue Method is a Postural Therapy program based on a series of stretches and gentle exercises designed to restore full, natural function to muscles and joints. It treats chronic musculoskeletal pain without using drugs, surgery, or manipulation, enabling you to enjoy a pain-free, active life."
I swear by this technique. I was experiencing chronic pain for several years, and even had the hideous thought that I would be in a wheel chair eventually. I was evaluated by a certified instructor, given a menu of exercises and do them faithfully everyday. I have almost zero pain or problems now. It is a time commitment, but I am dedicated to it because I know it works. I've spent thousands of dollars on physical therapy and the Chriopractor. They helped a little, but I was still in chronic pain. On the advice of my chiropractor, I tried Egoscue. It really works.
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Physical therapy but that takes like 2 hours/day to do all the things which are a series of exercises, breathing, meditation etc which I find that IF I don't do them, I can't walk a block without the hip bothering me. It does not bother me when I swim . But any standing rotation which is normally needed to stabilize a transition of weight like when you are turning and put weight on one foot to do that--that's when it catches and 'bites' me. Feels like a groin pull that comes on by surprise.

I think one of the protocols is a cortisone shot. Other is surgery where they might repair the labrum or take off the shredded parts AND burr down the part of the bone of the femor that impinges on labrum.

Insurance won't pay for alternative modalities like 'prolotherapy' and chiropractic. Out of pocket for that stuff would most likely drain my savings earmarked for PS.

I've got to be more disciplined to do the phys therapy series of things with the yoga and meditation series of things.

From what I've been reading about Femoral Acetabular Impingement (FAI), it's something that has to do with the morphology of the hip joint area where the femoral head has a convexity to it where it should have a concave area (cam) and the acetabular roof has a piece sticking out of it (pincer) where those two excess structures 'jam' at the labrum and impinge on it which eventually tears it up.




It's good that you are able to obtain relief from PT. I am a big fan of chiropractic, but if you have an actual structural impingement, chiropractic won't do a thing for that. The PT is helping your surrounding soft tissue properly support the troubled hip area. Have you had an MRI or other image to view the actual damage/landscape? If you need surgery it's best to monitor something like that carefully... I'm not suggesting you rush into surgery, however, if it is something that can only be cured by surgery, you don't want to wait until it worsens so much that even surgery can't correct it.
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I have not had an MRI (yet). I've noticed that on the days I don't have time to do all those PT and yoga things, the groin pull sensation will frequently pinch me with any walking at all. So, weird because the thing just feels like a groin pull rather than a joint pain. But they say that the groin pull sensation and the 'clicking' or feeling of 'something catching' in the femoral triangle area are hallmarks of FAI.

The chiropractor told me he does treat FAI. I'll book a consult with him first to see what he has to say.


Robin wrote:


It's good that you are able to obtain relief from PT. I am a big fan of chiropractic, but if you have an actual structural impingement, chiropractic won't do a thing for that. The PT is helping your surrounding soft tissue properly support the troubled hip area. Have you had an MRI or other image to view the actual damage/landscape? If you need surgery it's best to monitor something like that carefully... I'm not suggesting you rush into surgery, however, if it is something that can only be cured by surgery, you don't want to wait until it worsens so much that even surgery can't correct it.
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