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Larazelle
Posted: Monday, October 10, 2011 1:42:13 AM
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MissJ wrote:
Well, if you don't think it will be terrible for you, consider that there are a lot of other people out there for whom it won't be terrible for either. I mean try to focus more on how it's not going to be that bad for others.




Out of academic interest - if you look at statistics of people past 85, most of them do not have a lot of money - even when young with all things being equal, there are more more poor people than rich ones - so yes, there may be older people who will have happy lives, but there will be MORE older people who will not - and it will be mainly due to health or financial reasons.

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Posted: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:22:12 PM
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violeta wrote:

I don't know about the children part. There are many, many people in nursing homes with adult children who rarely or never visit. Or elderly who live alone, who have home health aides or in Assisted living facilities since their children live in another state. I don't think having children is a guarantee that people will have a motive to want to continue living in their 80s. I do agree many who are ill or disabled AND alone or with very little social support, will most likely not have much desire in living or be happy.
I think the key is having social support, even if it's not relatives. There are some assisted living places - Very different than nursing homes- where the elderly have their own apartments, have activities in the place, go on trips, have friends, etc. and can live happy in their old age, since they are surrounded by people who share interests or have activities to keep them happy to be alive and derive some type of joy out of life..in spite of having some health problems (most will have some or many in their 80s).


So true. We have quite a few elderly patients at the clinic who live in various nearby assisted living homes and the ones with the most social and family support are by far the happier and healthier group. My paternal grandparents are in their late 80's, my grandma in an assisted living home and grandad in a nursing home (Alzheimer's disease) and all things considered I think they are quite happy and still find great joy in life. But they also have lots of close family including kids, grandkids, great grandkids and even a few grandpets and a large group of close long term friends. I don't think they would have been doing nearly as well or as independent for as long as they were if they didn't have those important close relationships. Lonliness and unhappiness kill, both physically and spiritually.

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